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Old 06-10-10, 03:38 PM   #1
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I see your hypothetical tanks and raise you one Obyekt 279!




Actually it's not all that big, but it still looks like it should be manned by bear cavalry.
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Old 06-10-10, 03:41 PM   #2
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I see your hypothetical tanks and raise you one Obyekt 279!

Actually it's not all that big, but it still looks like it should be manned by bear cavalry.
It's especially awesome because it's called 'Object 279', one of the best codenames for such a thing ever...
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Old 06-10-10, 06:00 PM   #3
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It's especially awesome because it's called 'Object 279', one of the best codenames for such a thing ever...
Kugelpanzer!

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Old 06-10-10, 11:14 PM   #4
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Best tank ever!


edit- ya gotta love the "cyber armor" idea
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Old 06-10-10, 11:40 PM   #5
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Pics from an FDF exercise that ends today.











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Old 06-10-10, 11:52 PM   #6
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Is that glass I see in the barrel? Is this a variation of the ISMT or MILES systems?
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Old 06-11-10, 10:03 AM   #7
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Is that glass I see in the barrel? Is this a variation of the ISMT or MILES systems?
At least the infantry uses MILES so most likely the tanks have the same.

Here you can see the system working in the HQ.
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Old 06-11-10, 12:06 AM   #8
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edit- ya gotta love the "cyber armor" idea
Hehehe yea great idea having troops that keep fighting even after they are dead, kinda like in Space: Above and Beyond where the aliens had never heard of life after death until they heard of it from us. They took it literally and they assumed that half the army of Earth was made of zombies and the only way to stop them would be to chop up the humans they killed.


....... why was that show canceled.....
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Old 06-11-10, 07:39 AM   #9
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Hehehe yea great idea having troops that keep fighting even after they are dead, kinda like in Space: Above and Beyond where the aliens had never heard of life after death until they heard of it from us. They took it literally and they assumed that half the army of Earth was made of zombies and the only way to stop them would be to chop up the humans they killed.


....... why was that show canceled.....
LOL, I don't know, I never saw it, but wasn't there an Isaac Asimov story where humans introduced natural death to alien races?
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Old 06-11-10, 08:55 AM   #10
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L.T., good post.

I had a chance to talk to an officer in the Australian armored corps last year. Thay have M1A2 abrams and he talked about it like it was a sports car. Apparently, they run drills on the firing range where they will take off at full speed and the firing system is so sophisticated that they can detect, engage and hit targets with the first shot as if they were standing still.

modern tanks are infinitely more lethal than their ww2 counterparts. The big problem, however, is that the accuracy, range and lethality of its adversaries, namely airpower, AT missiles and RPGs has increased even faster.

At Kursk in 43, the german army was able to use its Tiger tanks to blast its way through the enemy lines and feel reasonably confident that no weapon in the Soviet arsenal could hurt it. Any army that tries the same thing now will just wind up with a lot of burning tanks.

Modern tanks are now in a similar position to WW2 battleships, no longer decisive weapons, but still useful in a supporting role.
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Old 06-11-10, 09:30 AM   #11
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LOL, I don't know, I never saw it, but wasn't there an Isaac Asimov story where humans introduced natural death to alien races?
I think is was called "Hostess".
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Old 06-11-10, 02:03 PM   #12
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Kugelpanzer!

WOW, best tank ever!!! Those T34 commanders would be crying at the sight of it!!!
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Old 06-11-10, 02:35 PM   #13
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Using the data from that tank-site Bilge Rat has olnked to on page 1, again I read that the latest German Tungsten round at 2000m is rated to have the same (indeed slightly higher) penetration power (I know I know, it is not really "penetration", but let's keep it simple, for sake of simplicity) than the third generation DU round that the Americans use. No surprise until here, I have read that before occasionally, and SBP even copies exactly the data given on that site in it's info tables about the ammunitions available in the sim. I assume it is due to different designs, and of course the higher muzzle velocity of the German ammunition.

I wonder if anybody has data on how both ammunitions compare at higher ranges of 3000 and 4000 meters? I would assume that at the greater ranges, the American DU gains an advantage over Tungsten, or do I assume wrong?
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Old 06-11-10, 08:21 PM   #14
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Though we never know for sure which is the best tank until they are pitched against each other in world war 3,

we could easily see which countries are most obsessed with tank building(developing)

In no particular order,
Germany, UK, Israel, and France being the latest comer.

I wouldn't put US or Russia as among countries most obsessed with tank building though.
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Old 06-11-10, 08:53 PM   #15
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To give an idea of how vulnerable a tank is just look at this picture







Aint that stupid
A tank within the chicken cage.
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