A Zillion Questions!

Chubster · 05-27-10, 04:05 AM

6 - I thought that dial was called the Attack Data Tool - which then sends to the TDC

3 - Which dials are you talking about - and which boat are you using

9 - Trust me it rains in TMO......Was tracking two large convoys in the Southern Luzon Straight - between the two lowest islands above Aparri - one going south the other north and I was bang in the middle of them. Popped up to have a look and it was chucking it down. This lasted for 4 days and I couldnt do anything to get a shot off on either. At one point i was less than 500yds from the escorting waships

10 - Can I expand on this one - I know you can get the sonar guy to follow closest target but is it possible to follow a specific target ie to pick out a merchant in the midst of all the dd and follow that

Admiral8Q · 05-27-10, 04:31 AM

Interesting answers Magic! I would like you to elaborate on #3 and #4. I'm very interested.

As for #7, I agree, you should have to dive to get any reception.

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6 - I thought that dial was called the Attack Data Tool - which then sends to the TDC

I know what it does, I was just wondering what it is called!

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Originally Posted by Chubster

3 - Which dials are you talking about - and which boat are you using

I'm talking about the "HUD" Heads up display. I would like them to look more like what they look like in the control room. Even the stop watch

er chronometer. The compass and the range in the ?Attack Data Tool? is the only one that really bothers me. Very hard to see clearly.

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Originally Posted by Chubster

9 - Trust me it rains in TMO......Was tracking two large convoys in the Southern Luzon Straight - between the two lowest islands above Aparri - one going south the other north and I was bang in the middle of them. Popped up to have a look and it was chucking it down. This lasted for 4 days and I couldnt do anything to get a shot off on either. At one point i was less than 500yds from the escorting waships

I love the sh... er, crapy weather. I did get a lot of thunder storms and high wind, just no rain, that was why I found it strange. Also nothing heavier than light fog.

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10 - Can I expand on this one - I know you can get the sonar guy to follow closest target but is it possible to follow a specific target ie to pick out a merchant in the midst of all the dd and follow that

I guess the answer is no, oi!

Jan Kyster · 05-27-10, 07:04 AM

Reg. #7, Sonar Gear... have a look in the manual: http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/sonar/index.htm

We have three hydrophones,
one topside:

and two below keel:

Source: http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/sonar/chap1.htm#1A

Chubster · 05-27-10, 08:42 AM

Have you looked at these http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=169160...they wont sort of the range markings in the thingy top right - new "official" name and now adopted by subpac - but will sort out other hud dials.

Rockin Robbins · 05-27-10, 08:50 AM

To expand on Jan Kyster's great post, the sonar head on deck is the acoustic sonar head which works in the normal range of human hearing. Only that particular sonar head works submerged but not on the surface.

But under the boat you have two supersonic sonar globes, which have two kinds of passive and all your active sonar. They work on the surface, listening for sounds of higher frequency than the human ear can detect.

Manuals at the site Jan Kyster cites specifically say that the supersonic sonar gear continued to operate "efficiently" on the surface, that the sonar operator was to remain at his station while surfaced unless the Captain ordered him to stand down.

Therefore it would be very unrealistic to keep the sonar from working on the surface. There was a limit to the surface speed you could run and still be able to develop any useful information from the supersonic sonar. Our best guess is that 10 knots was about the limiting speed. Since we cruise around at 9 knots normally for best fuel economy, the sonar would be useful 100% of cruise time. Only during pursuit or high speed evasion would the supersonic sonar be useless. Apparently there hasn't been a way to use a limiting speed as a way of turning the sonar off and on, so modders have been mostly turning it off on the surface. That is a grave mistake.

Jan Kyster · 05-27-10, 10:24 AM

Of course if one was equipped with radars, then I would switch the two globes off = retract them into the hull. They seems awfully fragile to me!

And with radar on board, they're kinda "superfluous" on the surface anyway...

magic452 · 05-27-10, 11:48 AM

# 3 Max optic only changes the hud dials not the TDC.
The hud won't look like the control room but are easier to read.
A lot of people don't like Max Optics but I love it, very large scope view, takes up most of the screen. I got tired of squinting at everything trying to see.
And I've got a 24" screen. When you look through the scope that is all you really see, you just tune out all the other dials, etc. till you want to see them.
One of my real dislikes for the way SH5 peri screen looks, too much stuff in there. I like the slid outs so I can get rid of all that stuff when I want.

# 4 I miss typed.

The mod I was referring to is RCM Imperial mod. it modifies the radar scopes and changes the camera position but you can not zoom. I had to uninstall it as it broke something else, don't remember just what it was. Free cam I believe.

Magic

Armistead · 05-27-10, 04:03 PM

No rain....I get plenty of rain...and some evil storms if you know where to look..

and wait until you find the beanstalk that goes to the sky.

I agree with Mag,,,got to have Maxoptics, need it for my eyes...

05-27-10, 08:50 AM	#5
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	To expand on Jan Kyster's great post, the sonar head on deck is the acoustic sonar head which works in the normal range of human hearing. Only that particular sonar head works submerged but not on the surface. But under the boat you have two supersonic sonar globes, which have two kinds of passive and all your active sonar. They work on the surface, listening for sounds of higher frequency than the human ear can detect. Manuals at the site Jan Kyster cites specifically say that the supersonic sonar gear continued to operate "efficiently" on the surface, that the sonar operator was to remain at his station while surfaced unless the Captain ordered him to stand down. Therefore it would be very unrealistic to keep the sonar from working on the surface. There was a limit to the surface speed you could run and still be able to develop any useful information from the supersonic sonar. Our best guess is that 10 knots was about the limiting speed. Since we cruise around at 9 knots normally for best fuel economy, the sonar would be useful 100% of cruise time. Only during pursuit or high speed evasion would the supersonic sonar be useless. Apparently there hasn't been a way to use a limiting speed as a way of turning the sonar off and on, so modders have been mostly turning it off on the surface. That is a grave mistake. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

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05-27-10, 04:05 AM	#1
Chubster Frogman Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 288 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	6 - I thought that dial was called the Attack Data Tool - which then sends to the TDC 3 - Which dials are you talking about - and which boat are you using 9 - Trust me it rains in TMO......Was tracking two large convoys in the Southern Luzon Straight - between the two lowest islands above Aparri - one going south the other north and I was bang in the middle of them. Popped up to have a look and it was chucking it down. This lasted for 4 days and I couldnt do anything to get a shot off on either. At one point i was less than 500yds from the escorting waships 10 - Can I expand on this one - I know you can get the sonar guy to follow closest target but is it possible to follow a specific target ie to pick out a merchant in the midst of all the dd and follow that

05-27-10, 07:04 AM	#3
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Reg. #7, Sonar Gear... have a look in the manual: http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/sonar/index.htm We have three hydrophones, one topside: and two below keel: Source: http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/sonar/chap1.htm#1A

05-27-10, 08:42 AM	#4
Chubster Frogman Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 288 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Have you looked at these http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=169160...they wont sort of the range markings in the thingy top right - new "official" name and now adopted by subpac - but will sort out other hud dials.

05-27-10, 10:24 AM	#6
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Of course if one was equipped with radars, then I would switch the two globes off = retract them into the hull. They seems awfully fragile to me! And with radar on board, they're kinda "superfluous" on the surface anyway...

05-27-10, 11:48 AM	#7
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	# 3 Max optic only changes the hud dials not the TDC. The hud won't look like the control room but are easier to read. A lot of people don't like Max Optics but I love it, very large scope view, takes up most of the screen. I got tired of squinting at everything trying to see. And I've got a 24" screen. When you look through the scope that is all you really see, you just tune out all the other dials, etc. till you want to see them. One of my real dislikes for the way SH5 peri screen looks, too much stuff in there. I like the slid outs so I can get rid of all that stuff when I want. # 4 I miss typed. The mod I was referring to is RCM Imperial mod. it modifies the radar scopes and changes the camera position but you can not zoom. I had to uninstall it as it broke something else, don't remember just what it was. Free cam I believe. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

05-27-10, 04:03 PM	#8
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	No rain....I get plenty of rain...and some evil storms if you know where to look.. and wait until you find the beanstalk that goes to the sky. I agree with Mag,,,got to have Maxoptics, need it for my eyes...