Am I the onlyone to be bothered by these bugs ?

BillBam · 05-02-10, 08:53 AM

I find the crew management aspect of the game the weakest part. This would not be a captains job, it is the COB or XOs job. I dislike it so much I stopped playing RFB, micro management is no fun.

Sammi79 · 05-02-10, 10:18 AM

The 'All stop' command on load bugs me quite a bit. 1 time out of 100 it doesn't happen either leading me to hammer the 3 or 5 key wandering why my crew are not responding!

I think it has something to do with the waypoint system though, if you have a course planned, when you load the game tells your navigator that the last waypoint has been reached, thus issuing an all stop command. if you tell your navigator to return to course, you get the message last waypoint reached, grrr

NO IT ISN'T I shout... and then 'All Stop' again.

Beware if you order ahead whatever speed to get going your navigator is not following waypoints, to get him to do that you have to (at least pretend to) plot more waypoints

otherwise it's straight ahead until you hit something or run out of diesel.

Frumpkis · 05-02-10, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BillBam

I find the crew management aspect of the game the weakest part. This would not be a captains job, it is the COB or XOs job. I dislike it so much I stopped playing RFB, micro management is no fun.

I'm about to reach the same conclusion, and probably start my next patrol with TMO instead. I don't enjoy shuffling crewmembers around, and it's not something a captain would be doing.

As far as remaining bugs go, I can live with the bugs in the OP's post. The one bug that really bothers me is the inertia/momentum modeling of the boat; the way it will glide for half a mile submerged after you command "all stop." I spend way too much time finessing my attack position with alternate forward and back engine commands to get the boat to stop dead in the water. I like that some momentum is modeled, but this is way overdone. And unfortunately it seems like it's not something the modders can change.

Harmsway! · 05-02-10, 11:36 AM

If you don't want to micro manage why are you doing it? RFB doesn't force you to do it. Most of us only mess with the crew when the sub is in danger. As for me I'm happy to save a few souls.

You don't have to change mods. Just stop messing about. Keep your hands off.

Keelbuster · 05-02-10, 01:34 PM

I thought that in TMO, we still had to move the crew from the bridge, deckgun, AA gun positions to Hogan's alley because the computer treats them as outside of the boat even when submerged... if this is not the case, I've been wasting a lot of time and incurring a lot of unnecessary frustration. I don't mind moving them off those locations I guess, because when you're about to get depth charged you don't have a lot else to do. But the thing that bothers me is that when I surface I often forget to replace the bridge watch, and with zero bridge efficiency I blunder into something.

BillBam · 05-02-10, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Keelbuster

I thought that in TMO, we still had to move the crew from the bridge, deckgun, AA gun positions to Hogan's alley because the computer treats them as outside of the boat even when submerged... if this is not the case, I've been wasting a lot of time and incurring a lot of unnecessary frustration. I don't mind moving them off those locations I guess, because when you're about to get depth charged you don't have a lot else to do. But the thing that bothers me is that when I surface I often forget to replace the bridge watch, and with zero bridge efficiency I blunder into something.

I seem to remember Ducimuse stating that you only have to move the gunners and not the watch crew in TMO.

itman · 05-02-10, 04:12 PM

No one mentions the fact, that when the deck-crew calls "ship spotted" each and every man is pointing in the opposite direction of the said spotted ship.

Like Bernard is on watch...

dezertflyr · 05-02-10, 05:44 PM

Whenever I dive I always move the crew below decks...to keep it real

jerm138 · 05-03-10, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frumpkis

I spend way too much time finessing my attack position with alternate forward and back engine commands to get the boat to stop dead in the water. I like that some momentum is modeled, but this is way overdone. And unfortunately it seems like it's not something the modders can change.

I bet the real skippers wish they would have had the ability to hover at depth too.

05-02-10, 01:34 PM	#5
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I thought that in TMO, we still had to move the crew from the bridge, deckgun, AA gun positions to Hogan's alley because the computer treats them as outside of the boat even when submerged... if this is not the case, I've been wasting a lot of time and incurring a lot of unnecessary frustration. I don't mind moving them off those locations I guess, because when you're about to get depth charged you don't have a lot else to do. But the thing that bothers me is that when I surface I often forget to replace the bridge watch, and with zero bridge efficiency I blunder into something. __________________

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05-02-10, 08:53 AM	#1
BillBam Watch Officer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yuba/Sutter, CA Posts: 347 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I find the crew management aspect of the game the weakest part. This would not be a captains job, it is the COB or XOs job. I dislike it so much I stopped playing RFB, micro management is no fun.

05-02-10, 10:18 AM	#2
Sammi79 XO Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Penzance Posts: 428 Downloads: 272 Uploads: 0	The 'All stop' command on load bugs me quite a bit. 1 time out of 100 it doesn't happen either leading me to hammer the 3 or 5 key wandering why my crew are not responding! I think it has something to do with the waypoint system though, if you have a course planned, when you load the game tells your navigator that the last waypoint has been reached, thus issuing an all stop command. if you tell your navigator to return to course, you get the message last waypoint reached, grrr NO IT ISN'T I shout... and then 'All Stop' again. Beware if you order ahead whatever speed to get going your navigator is not following waypoints, to get him to do that you have to (at least pretend to) plot more waypoints otherwise it's straight ahead until you hit something or run out of diesel.

05-02-10, 11:36 AM	#4
Harmsway! XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 400 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	If you don't want to micro manage why are you doing it? RFB doesn't force you to do it. Most of us only mess with the crew when the sub is in danger. As for me I'm happy to save a few souls. You don't have to change mods. Just stop messing about. Keep your hands off.

05-02-10, 04:12 PM	#7
itman Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 41 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	No one mentions the fact, that when the deck-crew calls "ship spotted" each and every man is pointing in the opposite direction of the said spotted ship. Like Bernard is on watch...

05-02-10, 05:44 PM	#8
dezertflyr Watch Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The American Road Posts: 26 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Whenever I dive I always move the crew below decks...to keep it real