South Park incurs the wrath of Mohammed

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by tater

Islam means "peace."

don't you mean "piece" such as "you in pieces" (not you tater, in general?)

[tater]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

don't you mean "piece" such as "you in pieces" (not you tater, in general?)

It's a gag based on the BS we heard after 911 that Islam means peace and was hijacked.

Islam in fact means "submission" or "submission to god."

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Call me a brown shirt if you want, but i think people like that need to be rounded up, and deported to a country outside of CONUS. Period.

Well, according to wiki, there's about 1,300,000,000 to 1,600,000,000 people to tolerate.

I'm fine with reciprocal tolerance. They can walk around in hijab and buqua as long as foreigners can walk around in miniskirts in their countries (not you of course, no one wants to see that ).

I'm still concerned about basic doctrine that is not in dispute, even by the most "moderate" Muslims, however. Apostasy has the required punishment of death. The most moderate response (from a super moderate Imam) was that we need not worry, because death for apostasy is not practical---not undesirable, but impractical. Yeesh.

That doesn't mean that all Muslims murder all apostates, but it's there, as a desired punishment---and where they have absolute power, it frequently becomes law.

Live and let live but screw with my SECULAR government, and you should be in deep doo doo. Other fundies in the US are roundly abused, but the Muslims get a pass for some reason. IMHO it should always be open season on idiotic belief systems.

[Castout]

@Tater
Hey what's with the notion idiotic belief systems.

If you're one of those atheists who seem to hate people with beliefs different that yours then you're being part of the problem and what's the difference between that and the Muslim fundamentalists who hate and threaten anybody else?

Pay respect to other people and be tolerable to other people's belief.

[conus00]

Originally Posted by Castout

@Tater
Hey what's with the notion idiotic belief systems.

If you're one of those atheists who seem to hate people with beliefs different that yours then you're being part of the problem and what's the difference between that and the Muslim fundamentalists who hate and threaten anybody else?

Pay respect to other people and be tolerable to other people's belief.

Idiotic belief is any religion which threatens all infidels with capital punishment (death) for their lack of belief.
What tater is tying to say has nothing with disrespect, he is merely pointing this fact out.

As far as I am concerned any member of any religion which deals in absolutes and, sometimes purposefully, skews their icon (in this case Koran) to threat and carry deadly and cowardly attacks against humankind should be singled out and its members have their human rights removed.

I would be interested to know how big percentage of Muslims are actually radical....

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by conus00

which threatens all infidels with capital punishment (death) for their lack of belief.

Capital punishment not only for lack of belief, but for the infidels having a sense of humor they (the extreme haters) cannot understand - or simply cannot/will not tolerate. Must be a very miserable existence they lead.

[tater]

A belief system is nothing more than a set of ideas that one CHOOSES to believe.

Some are brilliant, some are just meh, others are idiotic.

Nazism is a belief system. Communism is as well. So is enlightened, classical liberalism (ie: Western Civilization).

Islam is another belief system characterized by literalism to an ancient story made up by illiterates who copied much of it from other such stories (some of which had been transcribed to texts). It contains wonderful ideas like treating women as lesser beings, murdering people who through enlightenment cease to believe, taxing people based on holding another belief system (only SOME people, others get to be slaves), etc.

I'm as tolerant of that as am am of any other, similarly goofy set of wrong-headed ideas—religious or non-religious.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by tater

A belief system is nothing more than a set of ideas that one CHOOSES to believe.

Some are brilliant, some are just meh, others are idiotic.

Nazism is a belief system. Communism is as well. So is enlightened, classical liberalism (ie: Western Civilization).

Islam is another belief system characterized by literalism to an ancient story made up by illiterates who copied much of it from other such stories (some of which had been transcribed to texts). It contains wonderful ideas like treating women as lesser beings, murdering people who through enlightenment cease to believe, taxing people based on holding another belief system (only SOME people, others get to be slaves), etc.

I'm as tolerant of that as am am of any other, similarly goofy set of wrong-headed ideas—religious or non-religious.

People most often worship their ideology be it religious or non religious while they should worship God alone.
This most often come in ways that see people worshiping their religion and religious or non religious establishment.

Religions don't save anyone NONE. Only God does. While non religious ideology is merely that an ideology, a compass which often strayed in practice.
I'm not saying that one should not love his own country but being fanatical is worse than being indifferent.

and I haven't even touched on the subject of people worshiping mere man.....that's probably the most disgusting practice that mankind has ever seen.
But some people seem to demand that people to worship them. They are usually the worst kind of people in mankind while they sprout words such as eugenics.,,haha the irony

[Spoon 11th]

From wikipedia:

According to the South Park Studios webpage, Comedy Central aurally censored episode "201" after delivery but before airing. The censored version bleeps out any mention of the word 'Muhammed', as well as entire speeches given by Kyle, Jesus and Santa at the end of the episode. The episode is not officially available online on South Park Studios because the studio does not have network clearance to air the unedited version. As of April 22, 2010, South Park Studios also no longer streams the episode "Super Best Friends", which portrayed a non-disguised image of Muhammed and had actually been available for streaming prior to the "201" controversy.

On the afternoon of April 22 the creators posted this statement to media outlets:

"In the 14 years we’ve been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn’t stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn’t some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle’s customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn’t mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too."

As a side note, after just watching ep. 200. Randy Marsh actually showed a depiction of prophet Muhammad in episode 200. But seems like the (radical) muslims somehow missed that. They were only angry about the bear suit.