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Old 04-15-10, 04:42 PM   #1
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Can't but help think you guys got trolled.
A newly created account with so few posts (almost all are this thread) just to state "The game I play is better" . Just seems a bit odd is all.
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Old 04-15-10, 04:58 PM   #2
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Can't but help think you guys got trolled.
A newly created account with so few posts (almost all are this thread) just to state "The game I play is better" . Just seems a bit odd is all.

Well Mister know it all...

New account... yes.

My very first thread... yes

Reason for it? ...

I have never in my thirty years of computer gaming (and in particular sim-gaming) had the urge to give an honest oppinion about a game that sucks as much as this in a public forum.

No doubt the modders will make it much better in the future, but right now IT SUCKS, ok?

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Old 04-15-10, 05:06 PM   #3
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I have never in my thirty years of computer gaming (and in particular sim-gaming) had the urge to give an honest oppinion about a game that sucks as much as this in a public forum.

No doubt the modders will make it much better in the future, but right now IT SUCKS, ok?
From the Subsim FAQ: Editorial Policies...

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Oh well... so much for that.

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Old 04-15-10, 05:13 PM   #4
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Oh well... so much for that.

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I do apologize fo the comment and I would like to correct it.

The game is not up to standards.
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Old 04-15-10, 05:23 PM   #5
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Well Mister know it all...
I have never in my thirty years of computer gaming (and in particular sim-gaming) had the urge to give an honest oppinion about a game that sucks as much as this in a public forum.

No doubt the modders will make it much better in the future, but right now IT SUCKS, ok?

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See, it wouldn't of even entered my mind that you may of been just trolling if you gave your honest opinion of what you felt the bad points of the game were in your original post. To simply state something along the lines of -What I play is better and this game will never be as good- comes off as trying to be inflammatory in my opinion.
No biggie though, the Subsim forum members are an understanding lot

Regardless, if you were not trolling my bad for thinking you were and you have my apologies.
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See, it wouldn't of even entered my mind that you may of been just trolling if you gave your honest opinion of what you felt the bad points of the game were in your original post. To simply state something along the lines of -What I play is better and this game will never be as good- comes off as trying to be inflammatory in my opinion.
No biggie though, the Subsim forum members are an understanding lot

Regardless, if you were not trolling my bad for thinking you were and you have my apologies.


What on Satans Earth is "Trolling"???
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What on Satans Earth is "Trolling"???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
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The day I have to resort to Wikipedia for an answer is the day I will kill myself....

Please enlighten me...
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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
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Old 04-16-10, 07:24 AM   #10
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The day I have to resort to Wikipedia for an answer is the day I will kill myself....

Please enlighten me...
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It's an online resource, which can prove useful at times. Also, considering they require you to state sources, it is generally quite accurate, certainly more so than some books at times.
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Old 04-15-10, 05:44 PM   #11
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Well you get in this little boat see and you put some bait in the water see then you paddle around and you see who or what takes the bait.Be it fish or man.
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Old 04-15-10, 06:41 PM   #12
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Well Mister know it all...

New account... yes.

My very first thread... yes

Reason for it? ...

I have never in my thirty years of computer gaming (and in particular sim-gaming) had the urge to give an honest oppinion about a game that sucks as much as this in a public forum.

No doubt the modders will make it much better in the future, but right now IT SUCKS, ok?

Best regards

never in your years of sh3 enjoyment have you felt the urge to go to the sh3 forums and post positive things about that game?
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Old 04-16-10, 03:07 AM   #13
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never in your years of sh3 enjoyment have you felt the urge to go to the sh3 forums and post positive things about that game?

No.

I was too busy enjoing it.
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Old 04-16-10, 07:14 AM   #14
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Default as to capital ships tracking etc

If I may throw in my 2 cents - the game does not do the best job about unique ships. Two things about that: there are unique capital ships, and if you sink Ark Royal, you'll never see another Ark Royal again. BUT you will see 'Ark Royal class aircraft carrier' (metaphorically speaking) over and over. I think I've in my campaign I've already sunk more than 15 'Queen Elisabeth class' battleships. I can understand that, because of the scripted mission objectives. In Arctic Convoys (3rd campaign in carreer iirc) one does get a mission to sink 2 battleships and 2 carriers - but what if you already did sink all of allied carriers and/or battleships (as there is a very accurate capital ships roster ingame)? So the game spawns clones, and everyone is happy - sorta.
The second thing, related especially to Bismarck, is that in SH5 we do not change the outcome of the war. Seems to me we do not change anything at all. At one point in career, in the crew management section, my captain gets some conversation options that deal with death of one's brother serving on the Bismarck. Some events are scripted/implied in SH5, and it looks to me that no matter what the player does, there is no real influence on the campaign. I am in early 1942 at the moment, and I've sunk over 3m BRT of allied shipping - do I see less merchants/planes/warships around The Isles? Nope, not at all. To be precise it's not something that bothers me, on the contrary, it means I still have plenty of ships to sink/run away from - but it sure is more 'arcade', less 'subsim'.
Last thing that I'd like to mention - the stock damage system (i.e. torpedo/deck gun inflicted) in SH5 does let me down. I got used to it and learned to live with it. There are however awesome mods already that definitely make it all a better experience. BARF does rock, and did you notice it seems to work for deck gun too? I managed to sink a merchant by flooding, after lobbing some AP shells into her bow - and I was really happy about that.

PS Sort of 'hi all', me first post on subsim.
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Old 04-16-10, 08:40 AM   #15
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If I may throw in my 2 cents - the game does not do the best job about unique ships. Two things about that: there are unique capital ships, and if you sink Ark Royal, you'll never see another Ark Royal again. BUT you will see 'Ark Royal class aircraft carrier' (metaphorically speaking) over and over. I think I've in my campaign I've already sunk more than 15 'Queen Elisabeth class' battleships. I can understand that, because of the scripted mission objectives. In Arctic Convoys (3rd campaign in carreer iirc) one does get a mission to sink 2 battleships and 2 carriers - but what if you already did sink all of allied carriers and/or battleships (as there is a very accurate capital ships roster ingame)? So the game spawns clones, and everyone is happy - sorta.
The second thing, related especially to Bismarck, is that in SH5 we do not change the outcome of the war. Seems to me we do not change anything at all. At one point in career, in the crew management section, my captain gets some conversation options that deal with death of one's brother serving on the Bismarck. Some events are scripted/implied in SH5, and it looks to me that no matter what the player does, there is no real influence on the campaign. I am in early 1942 at the moment, and I've sunk over 3m BRT of allied shipping - do I see less merchants/planes/warships around The Isles? Nope, not at all. To be precise it's not something that bothers me, on the contrary, it means I still have plenty of ships to sink/run away from - but it sure is more 'arcade', less 'subsim'.
Last thing that I'd like to mention - the stock damage system (i.e. torpedo/deck gun inflicted) in SH5 does let me down. I got used to it and learned to live with it. There are however awesome mods already that definitely make it all a better experience. BARF does rock, and did you notice it seems to work for deck gun too? I managed to sink a merchant by flooding, after lobbing some AP shells into her bow - and I was really happy about that.

PS Sort of 'hi all', me first post on subsim.
Nice post - welcome to subsim matey
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