Crash the tea party

please explain how i borrowed government money or received government grants in any way to start a business.

Did I mention starting a business?
Though of course you got a business loan from your bank in the region of $12000ish for startup which of course is subsidised...unless of course you think that the banks tax subsidised business loans miraculously become unsubsidised when they are issued to you personally.
Every time you file your taxes you get grants...as a business you get more grants than Joe not really the plumber...unless of course your accountant is crap or has decided you deserve to be screwed over

since you would obviously know my business.

As it happens I find your business fascinating, or rather your claims about your tax liabilities and absence of govt. financial assistance
Remind me again how you got got to your "nearly half" figure.
What was it again? A net payment from the current account balance in the final quarter.

[SteamWake]

What does any of that **** have to do with the subject at hand.

Honestly pepole the diversion tactic is getting old.

What does any of that **** have to do with the subject at hand.

The subject in hand is whatever someone has raised in the subject.
Since Goldenrivet has raised his problems with understanding business finance and the role of tax money in it in this topic it is now part of the subject up for discussion.

But don't you find it funny that he compalins about government involvement in business yet his nick is derived from a business project that cannot have been undertaken without massive government assistance, could never have operated witout tax payers subsidies and has for well over 150 had to be propped up amost entirely by the taxpayer....yet without whose existance would have consigned the US and the majority of it business to being tiny little insignificant side shows on par with a cigarette stand in Arsendofnowhere Alaska

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

What does any of that **** have to do with the subject at hand.

Honestly pepole the diversion tactic is getting old.

Sorry, no more talk of chinese commie-chick soldiers.
But she hot thought...

[SteamWake]

Meh the thread went south as soon as the consipiricys came out. /shrug

I dont mind the humor and silly banter but the topic was about an orginized group of pepole with their hearts set on disrupting on what I see as (for the most part) real american men and women fighting for something they believe in.

Did I mention that this 'crash the party' group recieves funding from SEIU?

Sure get out there and counter protest, sure argue, even fight (no fists) but to disrupt via nefarious means shows to me desperation and deception.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Meh the thread went south as soon as the consipiricys came out. /shrug

I dont mind the humor and silly banter but the topic was about an orginized group of pepole with their hearts set on disrupting on what I see as (for the most part) real american men and women fighting for something they believe in.

Did I mention that this 'crash the party' group recieves funding from SEIU?

Sure get out there and counter protest, sure argue, even fight (no fists) but to disrupt via nefarious means shows to me desperation and deception.

I'm not sure if it's the same website, but they found the guy who is doing the website, a school teacher in or-gone, who is running it while he's at school! The investigator/reporter called the school admin, and no one wanted to talk about it. Your tax dollars at work.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I'm not sure if it's the same website, but they found the guy who is doing the website, a school teacher in or-gone, who is running it while he's at school! The investigator/reporter called the school admin, and no one wanted to talk about it. Your tax dollars at work.

Is the site still up?

LOL yes it is ... heh scroll to the bottom of the splash page... I'll bite my tounge

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Is the site still up?

LOL yes it is ... heh scroll to the bottom of the splash page... I'll bite my tounge

Yup, it's him.

Jason Levin, creator of http://www.crashtheteaparty.org, said Monday the group has 65 leaders in major cities across the country who are trying to recruit members to infiltrate tea party events for April 15—tax filing day, when tea party groups across the country are planning to gather and protest high taxes.

http://twitter.com/LarsLarsonShow

Here's his school:
http://www.beaverton.k12.or.us/home/schools/conestoga/

oops, there he is!
http://www.beaverton.k12.or.us/conestoga/encore.htm

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Meh the thread went south as soon as the consipiricys came out. /shrug

Kind of like when people pointed out the racists and misspelled signs at the teabagger rallies, and you accused those people of being SEIU operatives out to give the Tea Partiers a bad name?

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Kind of like when people pointed out the racists and misspelled signs at the teabagger rallies, and you accused those people of being SEIU operatives out to give the Tea Partiers a bad name?

Yes pretty much like that... oh hey look I was right ! Hence this thread.

Oh and its Tea Party not Tea Baggers.

You just keep on trying to make them look like a bunch of uninformed morons and racisist I know some will believe you and that should make you happy.

The problem for you though is that the 'normal' conservatives vastly outnumber your left wing activists. I think everything will be okay in November

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Every time you file your taxes you get grants...as a business you get more grants than Joe not really the plumber...unless of course your accountant is crap or has decided you deserve to be screwed over

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Though of course you got a business loan from your bank in the region of $12000ish for startup which of course is subsidised

No i got a loan based on land equity... nowhere on the loan does it say "small business loan" and in fact, this money was not originally sought for start up purposes, though it was handily used for a small margin of equipment acquisition.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Every time you file your taxes you get grants...as a business you get more grants than Joe not really the plumber.

funny, i get deductions based upon my itemized expenses, but the government does not send me grant money. as a white man... i dont qualify for (and dont take this figure literally) 99% of government grants.

besides... im not talking about legitimate businesses borrowing money from banks or lending institutions.

im not even talking about grants to legitimate businesses from the government.

as you apparently cannot read between the lines ill just out and say it.

I cannot stand the thought of paying taxes so that Bomqueque can get her welfare check to buy groceries (a legitimate purpose)... yet, while i am in line behind her in the check out counter and she also buys an equal value of cigarettes and beer and liquor with cash.

Though you might be approving of such behavior... I am not.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

your accountant is crap or has decided you deserve to be screwed over

remind me again why you keep going to this?

this is probably the 4th or 5th post from the past few months where you have insisted upon insulting my accountant. (Who happens to be my mother in law... who is one of dozens of accountants for a fortune 500 company... so yes, your comments are both childish and insulting) she knows the laws, she knows her stuff, and has worked the scales in my favor on more than one occasion. so i encourage you to sling your feces elsewhere

why is this need to spur insults? Im seriously interested to know the answer.

In all honesty my tax liability is not that bad.

i had a great deal of deductions to claim (more now that i own a business than ever before) and my refund is greater than it has been in the past.

however, i am angry about the tax codes in the USA because they allow for blatant abuses by people who cannot live within their means and view subsidies and welfare and food stamps as a way of continuing that disgusting lifestyle.

personally i dont understand how you or anyone else could defend it

[SteamWake]

Sigh.... lock it.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Sigh.... lock it.

aww come on i was just starting to get entertained!

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

aww come on i was just starting to get entertained!

I'll just add, I like bacon.


Poor SW.