Looking for Danger in the Pacific...

Immacolata · 04-08-10, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

With RSRD you sort of got to know where the action is.

The main fun with RSRD is catching the many large invasion forces scripted...

Spot on. Which is probably why I was really bored with it. I never managed to get near any of the flat top action in the Coral sea due to extreme fighter coverage

Armistead · 04-08-10, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Immacolata

Spot on. Which is probably why I was really bored with it. I never managed to get near any of the flat top action in the Coral sea due to extreme fighter coverage

Taking part of the battle of the Coral Sea is easy, I've done it with an S boat. Just get to where it is and wait. I was in a S boat and first found the Shoho sunk it and went to Coral Sea...I hit one carrier but with S boat couldn't chase it.

The best place to catch the Coral Sea TF is sit below San Cristobal and the smaller island below it. On May 5 or 6 the Yorktown will come through as it launches plans against the TF at Tulagi.
If you'll place yourself near where you find the Yorktown, the night of May 6, maybe 7, the jap fleet will come through.

http://www.historyanimated.com/CoralSea.html

I just finished this major battle using RSRD. After the last 4 patrols it was almost more than I could deal with, probably had 12 hours in it over two days..

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=t...058#4151038058

Immacolata · 04-09-10, 02:13 AM

It is the whole "knowing history in advance" that kinds of bore me. I would much rather have opportunities to spot enemies by radio report, chance or luck. Chasing a task force is exciting. Knowing where it is and lie in wait is not. RSRD felt like a whole lot of emptiness with some few, fixed points of fun around it. I guess I just like my Pacific War to be more gamey?

I am not sure how TMO 1.9 works on its campaign layer, but at least I'm having more what SEEMS like "chance" encounters. This is all very subjective, but as I'm not able to cite every naval engagement from the Pacific War by heart, TMO seems to be more fun looking at it through my periscope.

Its a bit like Europa Universalis III. I am all in for a historical SETTING with plausible cause-and-effect. But I dont want to re-enact history.

Armistead · 04-09-10, 04:37 AM

Almost every major engagement subs were sent to close positions and that's what RSRD does....even stock does it, just poorly. The stock reports while you dock telling you what's going on gives you tons of info. With RSRD convoys aren't going to spawn on you every 30 minutes game time

Stock has most of the same battles, just poorly done. No doubt you play stock, RSRD or any campaign mod, you know where to sit you can find things. I always sit in the San Bern Straits for the battle of Leyte to duke it out with the center force. I get bored chasing the stock simple convoys, packed close together, dodge some dd's for a few ship kills when I can do running battles over 500 miles with large TF's or Convoys.

However, Midway, Battle of Philippines, Santa Cruz, Leyte, ect...we basically knew where they were going.

TMO 1.9 reworked layers more like RSRD, except you'll find more convoys. Stock will always spawn convoys near you within certain limits regardless of how real it is. RSRD can get boring as you can go for weeks without a ship, but usually you run into a convoy...it's a big um, well protected.

Like the last major battle I did. I got a contact report, went flank to get there. I was out of position when sonar got it, but tracked for a day to attack. I then chased it for two days in and out of storms almost to Tokyo..

One thing I've done as I did get bored knowing where battles were is to try to attack a different path not where the actual battle is.

Still for most they can't resist getting involved in a large historical battle, most prefer that than chasing the same type convoys over and over.

Immacolata · 04-09-10, 06:05 AM

Hm, perhaps something was not right with my RSRD install. I ran for two months without any radio reports of convoys. OR anything really except that I had to relocate my base when Japan invaded Java etc. All I got was single merchants. Was put on patrol near Formosa and Celebes sea, like, the opposite direction of the action. Sigh.

Armistead · 04-09-10, 06:33 PM

Hmmm, not sure..I don't know that I've ever ran over two months without a radio flash message.

The map screen is much different if RSRD working, you'll notice a lot more labels.

Admiral8Q · 04-09-10, 06:35 PM

Don't use RSRD.

Admiral8Q · 04-10-10, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immacolata

It is the whole "knowing history in advance" that kinds of bore me. I would much rather have opportunities to spot enemies by radio report, chance or luck. Chasing a task force is exciting. Knowing where it is and lie in wait is not.

I am all in for a historical SETTING with plausible cause-and-effect. But I dont want to re-enact history.

I have to agree with this. It is a game. Games are meant to be fun. On my current patrol I made a supply drop, reported to the south China sea. Chased down a sonar contact which turned out to be a couple of sub chasers. (The game "paused" for a second so I went to the sonar station and found them. My sonar man must be deaf, heh heh!) Now I'm heading pass Singapore hoping to find something to sink. So far I've only sunk one Sampan, oi.

Anyways, it would be interesting to have a campaign where the Japs actually win the Pacific war and the American fight goes on into the 1950's. That would be an interesting scenario!

Armistead · 04-13-10, 06:32 AM

You wanna find some fun with RSRD in Oct -Dec of 43, hang about 170nms east of Saipan. You'll get several flash messages of TF and convoys. I found 3 large convoys just headed that way. On the way back I ran into a lone Shokaku and was like..alone..Oh well...gave him my 4 remaining bows. Wasn't long here came a lone CA, but going fast, so I let him go, only for another lone CA to pop up that I took out with my afts. I had one aft left and a few more CA"S and BB's came through with no escorts. Finally a flash message popped up that IGN units would be coming from Truk to Home Waters. The location was 500NMS away 3 days from now, I just caught them early on their path.

Coming home entering Bismark I run into a TF, thinking US, but a group of LCA's, Kumi and Agano's. I torp left I sunk a rare Agano since I don't see em much.

Another flash message 5 convoys between Truk and Home Waters..Seems they pass 150nms west of Saipan, so that's the honey spot in late 43.

04-09-10, 02:13 AM	#3
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	It is the whole "knowing history in advance" that kinds of bore me. I would much rather have opportunities to spot enemies by radio report, chance or luck. Chasing a task force is exciting. Knowing where it is and lie in wait is not. RSRD felt like a whole lot of emptiness with some few, fixed points of fun around it. I guess I just like my Pacific War to be more gamey? I am not sure how TMO 1.9 works on its campaign layer, but at least I'm having more what SEEMS like "chance" encounters. This is all very subjective, but as I'm not able to cite every naval engagement from the Pacific War by heart, TMO seems to be more fun looking at it through my periscope. Its a bit like Europa Universalis III. I am all in for a historical SETTING with plausible cause-and-effect. But I dont want to re-enact history. __________________ "The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." - W. Churchill

04-09-10, 06:05 AM	#5
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Hm, perhaps something was not right with my RSRD install. I ran for two months without any radio reports of convoys. OR anything really except that I had to relocate my base when Japan invaded Java etc. All I got was single merchants. Was put on patrol near Formosa and Celebes sea, like, the opposite direction of the action. Sigh. __________________ "The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." - W. Churchill

04-09-10, 06:35 PM	#7
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,077 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Don't use RSRD. __________________

04-13-10, 06:32 AM	#9
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	You wanna find some fun with RSRD in Oct -Dec of 43, hang about 170nms east of Saipan. You'll get several flash messages of TF and convoys. I found 3 large convoys just headed that way. On the way back I ran into a lone Shokaku and was like..alone..Oh well...gave him my 4 remaining bows. Wasn't long here came a lone CA, but going fast, so I let him go, only for another lone CA to pop up that I took out with my afts. I had one aft left and a few more CA"S and BB's came through with no escorts. Finally a flash message popped up that IGN units would be coming from Truk to Home Waters. The location was 500NMS away 3 days from now, I just caught them early on their path. Coming home entering Bismark I run into a TF, thinking US, but a group of LCA's, Kumi and Agano's. I torp left I sunk a rare Agano since I don't see em much. Another flash message 5 convoys between Truk and Home Waters..Seems they pass 150nms west of Saipan, so that's the honey spot in late 43. Last edited by Armistead; 04-13-10 at 07:44 PM.

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04-09-10, 04:37 AM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Almost every major engagement subs were sent to close positions and that's what RSRD does....even stock does it, just poorly. The stock reports while you dock telling you what's going on gives you tons of info. With RSRD convoys aren't going to spawn on you every 30 minutes game time Stock has most of the same battles, just poorly done. No doubt you play stock, RSRD or any campaign mod, you know where to sit you can find things. I always sit in the San Bern Straits for the battle of Leyte to duke it out with the center force. I get bored chasing the stock simple convoys, packed close together, dodge some dd's for a few ship kills when I can do running battles over 500 miles with large TF's or Convoys. However, Midway, Battle of Philippines, Santa Cruz, Leyte, ect...we basically knew where they were going. TMO 1.9 reworked layers more like RSRD, except you'll find more convoys. Stock will always spawn convoys near you within certain limits regardless of how real it is. RSRD can get boring as you can go for weeks without a ship, but usually you run into a convoy...it's a big um, well protected. Like the last major battle I did. I got a contact report, went flank to get there. I was out of position when sonar got it, but tracked for a day to attack. I then chased it for two days in and out of storms almost to Tokyo.. One thing I've done as I did get bored knowing where battles were is to try to attack a different path not where the actual battle is. Still for most they can't resist getting involved in a large historical battle, most prefer that than chasing the same type convoys over and over.

04-09-10, 06:33 PM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Hmmm, not sure..I don't know that I've ever ran over two months without a radio flash message. The map screen is much different if RSRD working, you'll notice a lot more labels.