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Old 04-06-10, 07:13 PM   #16
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Looks like the bill is just saying that a balanced teaching of global warming must be taught.Let's face it guys, global warming is not a FACT, it is a theory and one that I and many people find unlikely.Now, I will not deny that man's pollution has an effect on the earth in some ways and thus we need to find ways to live and not pollute the earth so much(not things like cap and trade that will hurt us), but we do not have the impact to the extent Al Gore and company argue.Although I disagree with global warming theory, both sides should be taught as THEORY and students can make up their own minds.

I live in the Florida Panhandle(Pensacola) and the winters here do get cold but this past winter was the coldest thus far in my life.I looked up some info:

The average winter reading this season in Pensacola has been 48.4 degrees, which is 5.3 degrees below normal. Here are the coldest winters on record from the National Weather Service for Pensacola.

1.) 47.4 average temp in 1977
2.) 47.5 average temp in 1978
3.) 47.6 average temp in 1964
4.) 48.4 average temp in 2010

48.4 may have been the AVERAGE temp but there were many nights, including 11 days straight in January when the temp went below freezing, in Florida(!) Talked to some friends in south florida and was told it was cooler down there as well.Put this in with the record snow storms in the US and all.Oh yea, the climate change conference that was in copenhagen(i think) they had a record blizzard during or right before the big meeting right? Global Warming my ass OH wait, I think someone actually said that global warming was causing us to have harsher winters LOL

On a more partisan note: The envrionazis are a force in the Dem party thus their candidates have catered to them and pushed this crap as if it's real scientific fact and not a theory.Kind of a good scheme except facts and rational thinking just don't match up with it










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Old 04-06-10, 07:15 PM   #17
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Nice job on puttting all that together, waste of time though because I have read the research, watched the films, heard various professors when i was in college give their views on global warming and both sides had valid points but neither could prove it either way really, no one has.I did admit that humans have had an impact on the earth with pollutants, no doubt about it, but again not to the degree Al Gore and company would have us believe, the earth does go through cycles.We should also try to move towards better practices that curb pollution and improve the earth but can not get radical about it.However, this environazi movement that has taken hold in the Dem party and produced proposals like cap and trade, which even the President admitted would drive energy prices way up, is disturbing and based on flawed science for most part.Can we say climategate? google it.
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Old 04-06-10, 07:15 PM   #18
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Here's the ugly truth about global warming:

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Old 04-06-10, 07:36 PM   #19
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Nice job on puttting all that together, waste of time though because I have read the research, watched the films
Would that research and films be of similar quality to that you posted relating to the secret army of nazi dentists who are taking over America?
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Can we say climategate? google it.
That was addressed in post #6. See here.
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Old 04-06-10, 08:14 PM   #21
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Would that research and films be of similar quality to that you posted relating to the secret army of nazi dentists who are taking over America?
tribesman, do you even live in the US? just curious .Also, I did not post saying the "secret army of nazi dentists" were taking over.I posted my concerns about obama starting his own little army under the guise of the already established corps. I also posted how many are far too trusting of someone who has shown he as a problem with being truthful.Blind faith in a leader or the government is just crazy. Again, you can never respond with anything to counter what I said, just sarcasm and insults, maybe you will wake up one day, doubt it but maybe.
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That was addressed in post #6. See here.
That means nothing, O.J. Simpson was cleared of murder charges but the evidence was there, just like in climategate.
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Old 04-06-10, 08:37 PM   #23
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That means nothing, O.J. Simpson was cleared of murder charges but the evidence was there, just like in climategate.
and that has exactly what to do with science or global warming?
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August - I think you have nailed global warming down - all the extra people create alot of extra body heat - thats must be what has made it snow.....

oh wait a sec........
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Also, I did not post saying the "secret army of nazi dentists" were taking over.I posted my concerns about obama starting his own little army under the guise of the already established corps.
Thats true, you didn't say it was nazi dentists, you said the emergency medical staff were a private army under the President who are akin to the Gestapo.

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Again, you can never respond with anything to counter what I said
Thats funny , what I wrote here was to counter your claims about yourself viewing evidence and reaching a logical conclusion from that evidence.
It links nicely with how you reject all the data posted y Stealth Hubnter as you already have your conspiracy theory, just as despite all the data posted in the nazi dentist topic you yet again just claimed its the President starting his own little army under the guise of something else

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Blind faith in a leader or the government is just crazy.
Who on earth is talking about blind faith?
Though it could be said that it appears you will blindly believe any crazy conspiracy you see in a video on you-tube about if it fits your faith in the existence of the secret evil plans operating throughout the establishment.
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August - I think you have nailed global warming down - all the extra people create alot of extra body heat - thats must be what has made it snow.....

oh wait a sec........
Snow? We have mosquitoes already in northern Maine when normally there is a foot or more of snow still on the ground. What snow?

Global warming is real. The ugly hidden truth is that with world population at 7 billion and growing no cap and trade type scheme is ever going to do anything except make a few people rich.
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The average winter reading this season in Pensacola has been 48.4 degrees, which is 5.3 degrees below normal. Here are the coldest winters on record from the National Weather Service for Pensacola.
{/troll}

I'm serious. No one at this point can be this ignorant as to what AGW is and how it works. The whole "ah, it's cold outside, AGW must be a lie" joke is growing too old to be taken seriously.

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I'm serious. No one at this point can be this ignorant
I wouldn't put money on it.
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{/troll}

I'm serious. No one at this point can be this ignorant as to what AGW is and how it works. The whole "ah, it's cold outside, AGW must be a lie" joke is growing too old to be taken seriously.

I saw that and was wondering if that poster was being serious. The whole point about GLOBAL warming is that it is GLOBAL. What happens in your town means jack compared to global average and temps in areas that can cause significant climate change.

BTW that "Let the kids decide" comic is the best way to describe the situation I have seen yet.
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I'm serious. No one at this point can be this ignorant as to what AGW is and how it works. The whole "ah, it's cold outside, AGW must be a lie" joke is growing too old to be taken seriously.

Why do you say that's a troll? If the temps in his area are below average over an entire season then they are below average over an entire season.

Global warming activists always shoot themselves in the foot with these knee jerk reactions which is part of the reason people tend to disbelieve the theory.
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