Oh, my!!!!

he was lived in Indonesia for four years as a child and attended Islamic schools.Facts, not opinions

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Damn that means Obama must be a christian , after all he lived in christian countries went to christian schools and had christian realatives

Obama's actions such as not supporting Israel as American always has

What utter bull, you demontrate one thing there Bubble .
You know bugger all about American history and will never learn anything of consequence about American history.
BTW have you discovered when America was getting attacked by Israeli terrorists yet? or perhaps when America found israeli spies stealing its industrial and defence secrets?
.....or have you discovered nothing apart from what your own small scale bigoted views which are detatched from reality will allow?

Can't discuss the facts of BOTH sides of the issue

Haplo mentioned facts!!!!!!
He did it and used CAPS LOCKS too
I rest my case , Haplo must have been spreading bull

[AVGWarhawk]

He is a ChistIslamaBaptiEpsicopathlic. Oh, was not born a US Citizen either. I think he was born in Lamotrek Atoll. He likes crunchy Peter Pan peanut butter on Sundays.

He likes crunchy Peter Pan peanut butter on Sundays.

Well thats Ok, unless of course he goes for one of the supplicant religions where sunday is really saturday, but then we must consider Peter Pan....that heathen entity is an abomination, little baby jesus had to grow up and get nailed to a tree for saying people should be nice to each other.
What makes Peter so special that he doesn't have to grow up and be nailed to a tree?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well thats Ok, unless of course he goes for one of the supplicant religions where sunday is really saturday, but then we must consider Peter Pan....that heathen entity is an abomination, little baby jesus had to grow up and get nailed to a tree for saying people should be nice to each other.
What makes Peter so special that he doesn't have to grow up and be nailed to a tree?

I'm not so sure Peter Pan was an abomination...Michael Jackson was a firm believer of Peter Pan. In so much as he had Neverland and many plastic surgerys to make himself look like Peter Pan.





It is quite clear Peter Pan is real....well he was to MJ

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

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Damn that means Obama must be a christian , after all he lived in christian countries went to christian schools and had christian realatives



What utter bull, you demontrate one thing there Bubble .
You know bugger all about American history and will never learn anything of consequence about American history.
BTW have you discovered when America was getting attacked by Israeli terrorists yet? or perhaps when America found israeli spies stealing its industrial and defence secrets?
.....or have you discovered nothing apart from what your own small scale bigoted views which are detatched from reality will allow?


Haplo mentioned facts!!!!!!
He did it and used CAPS LOCKS too
I rest my case , Haplo must have been spreading bull

Tribesman,

The difference is this is a Christian nation.Although I do not believe in any of the religions, America was founded by christians on christian principles but did make sure it was not the guiding force in the government via seperation of church and state, so we are a christian nation.I said Obama is not a Muslim but is sympathetic to muslims due to his backround which prevents him from acting as he should when dealing with issues related to muslim nations etc

I know plenty about American history, just not your lefty revisionist history.Always made A's in history in college even though my professors were usually lefty revisionists like yourself and I called them out for it

bigoted views? I have no bigoted views, unless you are claiming my views towards muslims is bigoted which is simply not true.You however seem to have great disdain for Israel.Like any nation Israel is not perfect and has done things they should not have.The spying should not occur because we are Allies and share/sell most technology to them anyway but rest assured the CIA has spies in Israel and has done things not so great, but it is part of the game in the real world, not the gumdrop rainshow utopia Libs live in.I know of some incidents in which Israelis were found in the US and their trucks "tested positive" for explosives but never found any evidence of a terrorist attack.No connections to the Israeli govt was found.They were rental trucks, I bet half the rental fleet out there would test positive for something "bad" I know about The Lavon Affair in 54, I know about the USS Liberty incident.
So, yes I am aware of the not so good things the Israelis have done.I hope you are not one of those people who believe Israel was really behind 9/11

Again, neither the US nor Israel is perfect but we have been Allies for years and when it comes to the Israel/Palestinian issue, we should be on the side of Israel, no questions asked for the most part.They have fought and earned their right to exist.They should build all the settlements they want, they won the multiple wars and seized the lands.To the victors go the spoils of war.Should they choose to give them up, fine if not, too bad.No one else has the right to tell them to stop building.

[CaptainHaplo]

Bubblehead - it is a common misconception that the country was founded by "Christians". By definition, the majority of the founding fathers were deists.

While deism and Christianity share many of the same tenents, they do differ. Deists believe in a "higher power" - aka God, which is why there are so many references to the Supreme Being in our historical documents. However, deists may or may not place faith in specific tenents of the Christian faith - for example a deist may reject the notion of the Trinity, or they may deny that modern scripture is without error.

Because deism and Xtianity are so very closely tied, from a historical perspective people look at it as in "Well they believed in God and Jesus and I do to, and I am a Xtian, so they must have been - thus this nation was founded as a xtian nation" - yet the reality is much more complex and such a statement is inaccurate.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Bubblehead - it is a common misconception that the country was founded by "Christians". By definition, the majority of the founding fathers were deists.

While deism and Christianity share many of the same tenents, they do differ. Deists believe in a "higher power" - aka God, which is why there are so many references to the Supreme Being in our historical documents. However, deists may or may not place faith in specific tenents of the Christian faith - for example a deist may reject the notion of the Trinity, or they may deny that modern scripture is without error.

Because deism and Xtianity are so very closely tied, from a historical perspective people look at it as in "Well they believed in God and Jesus and I do to, and I am a Xtian, so they must have been - thus this nation was founded as a xtian nation" - yet the reality is much more complex and such a statement is inaccurate.

I am aware of deism.However this has been a Chrstian nation, thus why Christmas is a Holiday etc Personally, I am not religious so does not matter.However, there are some that more dangerous than others.

Basic point was someone with sympathies and deep family ties for a religion and it's followers that is the basis of the terrorist holy war that began on us really at Beirut barracks bombing in the 80's( a relative of mine was among the dead, never met him as I was born after) and continues today, can not lead this nation properly and he has shown it in his actions.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

The difference is this is a Christian nation.Although I do not believe in any of the religions, America was founded by christians on christian principles but did make sure it was not the guiding force in the government via seperation of church and state, so we are a christian nation.I said Obama is not a Muslim but is sympathetic to muslims due to his backround which prevents him from acting as he should when dealing with issues related to muslim nations etc

http://bmccreations.com/one_nation/nation.html

http://bmccreations.com/one_nation/principals.html

To be precise.

Many Christians live in the US. And Christian culture has had an influence. As has had ancient Greece, Rome, etc. But the US is not explicitly founded on Christian principles, nor is it an explicitly "Christian country".

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Skybird

http://bmccreations.com/one_nation/nation.html

http://bmccreations.com/one_nation/principals.html

To be precise.

Many Christians live in the US. And Christian culture has had an influence. As has had ancient Greece, Rome, etc. But the US is not explicitly founded on Christian principles, nor is it an explicitly "Christian country".

Interesting reading, read it before though.Thanks for links

[CaptainHaplo]

Christmas is a holiday in alot of countries - that doesn't make them Christian. I understand your point, and perhaps I am being a little too technical at this juncture, but being ordained and a history buff, this is one of those items that I just have to speak up on!