Sky comparison. SH2 vs SH5. 2001 vs 2010.

cherbert · 03-24-10, 05:57 AM

I agree with OP. This is a big issue in SH5. The sky is horrible when there are no clouds to hide the terrible colour banding. Other games can do it better so there should be no excuses.

I would hope its just a simple case of modding a better quality texture for the Skybox?

Nordmann · 03-24-10, 06:57 AM

If you look closely, the SH2 sky has the same problem, and if memory serves, both 3 and 4 also have the noticeable banding. Perhaps it is not something easily fixed, if at all.

Dowly · 03-24-10, 07:04 AM

I think the problem is that SH uses gradiant color for sky, instead of some games using textures. The game can't handle all the colors in the "line" going from blue to light blue and you get the banding. Same is in OFP/ArmA/ArmA 2 for example.

flakmonkey · 03-24-10, 07:09 AM

I always thought the color banding issue was a problem with lcd screens, i cant say i ever saw this sort of thing back in the days of crt monitors.

Coldcall · 03-24-10, 07:21 AM

I dont think everyone is having the same experience re Banding. And that has nothign to do with AA, so i still dopnt understand what the OP is saying. The banding is some sort of hardware issues, settings, graphics error, i dont know what...

I first started playing SH5 on a computer with a GT 8600, and i had no banding whatsoever (which demsonrates its not what SH5 is supposed to look like). I'm currently on another computer which is one of those HP Pavillion boxes (Samsung 23 inch widescreen synchmaster) with a nice lil processor i5 770, but a GT 220 for video, which while a little more powerful than the GT 8600 has now made banding a real problem. I've gone through 3 different driver sets and nothing reduces the banding.

The only other difference to when i was playing before with zero noticable banding was that i am playing on widescreen resolutions 1680 x 1050, or sometimes dipping down to approx 1300 x 900 (cant remember the exact value for that setting).

So why is it some computers are having this major banding issue and others not? It would be interesting to know what other types of rigs are having the banding issues.

PS: One other thing i noticed is that its really bad in foggy weather, the foggier the worse it gets.

Bilge_Rat · 03-24-10, 07:53 AM

Is it a Nvidia issue? I am playing with a ATI 4890 on a 27" LCD monitor at 1920x1200 and I can't say I have noticed anything unusual at night.

Coldcall · 03-24-10, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Is it a Nvidia issue? I am playing with a ATI 4890 on a 27" LCD monitor at 1920x1200 and I can't say I have noticed anything unusual at night.

I dont think its nvidia as my GT 8600 had no banding but the GT 220 does. Maybe its their newer cards like the 200 series. I wouldnt be surprised as im shocked at how little improvement there is on the GT 220 compared to the old 2007 GT 8600. Its only slightly faster.

But leaving aside the ****ty gpu im currently stuck with unless i upgrade my psu, i dont think its just an nvidia thing.

03-24-10, 06:57 AM	#2
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	If you look closely, the SH2 sky has the same problem, and if memory serves, both 3 and 4 also have the noticeable banding. Perhaps it is not something easily fixed, if at all. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

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flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	I always thought the color banding issue was a problem with lcd screens, i cant say i ever saw this sort of thing back in the days of crt monitors. __________________

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Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	Is it a Nvidia issue? I am playing with a ATI 4890 on a 27" LCD monitor at 1920x1200 and I can't say I have noticed anything unusual at night. __________________

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03-24-10, 05:57 AM	#1
cherbert Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 210 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I agree with OP. This is a big issue in SH5. The sky is horrible when there are no clouds to hide the terrible colour banding. Other games can do it better so there should be no excuses. I would hope its just a simple case of modding a better quality texture for the Skybox?

03-24-10, 07:04 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,053 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I think the problem is that SH uses gradiant color for sky, instead of some games using textures. The game can't handle all the colors in the "line" going from blue to light blue and you get the banding. Same is in OFP/ArmA/ArmA 2 for example.

03-24-10, 07:21 AM	#5
Coldcall Chief Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 325 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	I dont think everyone is having the same experience re Banding. And that has nothign to do with AA, so i still dopnt understand what the OP is saying. The banding is some sort of hardware issues, settings, graphics error, i dont know what... I first started playing SH5 on a computer with a GT 8600, and i had no banding whatsoever (which demsonrates its not what SH5 is supposed to look like). I'm currently on another computer which is one of those HP Pavillion boxes (Samsung 23 inch widescreen synchmaster) with a nice lil processor i5 770, but a GT 220 for video, which while a little more powerful than the GT 8600 has now made banding a real problem. I've gone through 3 different driver sets and nothing reduces the banding. The only other difference to when i was playing before with zero noticable banding was that i am playing on widescreen resolutions 1680 x 1050, or sometimes dipping down to approx 1300 x 900 (cant remember the exact value for that setting). So why is it some computers are having this major banding issue and others not? It would be interesting to know what other types of rigs are having the banding issues. PS: One other thing i noticed is that its really bad in foggy weather, the foggier the worse it gets.