[TEC] Small-arms

[perisher]

I think the icon is for shooting the soup guy

[mookiemookie]

I believe that small arms fire was used to suppress gun crews on merchant ships. Just a guess.

[Safe-Keeper]

I believe that small arms fire was used to suppress gun crews on merchant ships. Just a guess.

The loading screen talks about suppressing enemy merchant ships with your flak guns. I wonder if this actually has an effect, and if so, what the effect would be. Does it hinder the firing of their guns? Does it keep them from sending distress calls? Does it keep them from manoeuvring effectively? I swear I've had merchants try to ram me in SH5 -- maybe an effect of suppressing fire is that they have to keep their heads down and don't see you properly?

I think the icon is for shooting the soup guy

No, it's the Detain Bernard at Gunpoint ability. Shuts him in the head so he doesn't interfere with the goings of the boat.

[perisher]

After giving it some thought, I think it's for a "Crimson Tide" scenario. The XO, tired of the Skipper ignoring his complaints about the crew peeing in his coffee, enlists the help of the Soup Guy to take over the boat.

Seriously though, how many small arms did a Type VII carry? I guess a pistol per officer, maybe 4 rifles, a couple of MP38s and an MG34? "Crimson Tide" suggests that US boats carry enough weapons to arm an infantry battalion. Personal experience in the RN (1972-1984) says a "Ton" Class Minesweeper, with a compliment of 34, carried 4 rifles, 2 SMGs and 4 pistols. The wartime British movie, "We Dive At Dawn", suggests that a wartime boat had plenty of rifles and a couple of Lewis Guns.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by perisher

Seriously though, how many small arms did a Type VII carry? I guess a pistol per officer, maybe 4 rifles, a couple of MP38s and an MG34?.

I'm not sure on the VIIC, but a postwar study of the Type IX showed the standard small-arms configuration to consist of two K98s, 6 Pistols, and a 7.62mm machine gun (typically an MG34). Typically there would also be at least one MP40 on board.

[Sgtmonkeynads]

I just wonder what happened to the rest of the deck gun crew I was expecting due to those screen shots mentioned before. it was a huge dissapointment ( one of many) to find out it was the standard two men.

[Baleur]

Realism or not, if somalian pirates in real life can fire rifles, submachine guns and rpgs from small rafts at huge oil tankers, im sure some ww2 u-boats did the same in dire need of some extra firepower.
Heck, if a musketman in the 1800's could shoot at another ship while standing high up on the mast while the ship bobs from side to side, i'm pretty sure a proper navy in ww2 could do the same, even when standing on a surfaced u-boat

Granted, your deck gun would be far more effective, but since when has the military or navy ever said no to a few extra guns, small or not?

It'd be an awesome mod idea, a few dudes with mp40's or rifles
Sure it would be useless versus a military vessel, but against a small lonely merchant that you dive up behind 50 meters away, it might be useful!

[java`s revenge]

What do you think of firing with a machinegun at a cabin of a merchant or destroyer.


Wasn`t that happened???

[Adam84]

Originally Posted by perisher

After giving it some thought, I think it's for a "Crimson Tide" scenario. The XO, tired of the Skipper ignoring his complaints about the crew peeing in his coffee, enlists the help of the Soup Guy to take over the boat.

Seriously though, how many small arms did a Type VII carry? I guess a pistol per officer, maybe 4 rifles, a couple of MP38s and an MG34? "Crimson Tide" suggests that US boats carry enough weapons to arm an infantry battalion. Personal experience in the RN (1972-1984) says a "Ton" Class Minesweeper, with a compliment of 34, carried 4 rifles, 2 SMGs and 4 pistols. The wartime British movie, "We Dive At Dawn", suggests that a wartime boat had plenty of rifles and a couple of Lewis Guns.

You just reminded me of that great scene from Red October, "It's the goddam cook!" *que dramatic, distinctly red, sweaty shootout on nuclear sub*