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Old 03-14-10, 07:59 AM   #1
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We expected occasional downtime from the Ubi servers, but NO ONE ( I REPEAT NO ONE) predicted a pirate group would launch a DDOS attack on the servers. I mean the pirates are meant to be on our side right? But they're the ones stopping us playing!
Actually I said it numerous times before release, as did many others, on many sites.
Honestly I expected it to be on the launch days of SH5 and Assassins Creed 2 though.
The most surprising thing is it took two weeks to do it.

As for the pirates being to blame not ubi, while I don't defend piracy, what you are saying is like blaming the villagers for not turning the resistance fighters over to the nazis, and it is there fault when the nazi's stage a 'collective punnishment' on the village.
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Old 03-14-10, 08:11 AM   #2
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Again... just so I understand the logic of your analogy.


- The Ubisoft servers work fine.

- Because the Ubisoft servers are working fine you can play SH 5

- The hackers run a DOS attack on the servers

- Because the hackers run a DOS attack on the Ubisoft servers you cannot play SH 5

- It's Ubisoft's fault


Have I pretty well got it?

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Old 03-14-10, 08:21 AM   #3
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Been playing this morning without any problems - was kicked off the computer by my "other DRM" - my girlfriend wanted to play Wow lol

John - this is how I see it, maybe its the way some of the others do too. Gonna use your post to illustrate only , this is in no-way an attack on you

-Ubisoft include a DRM in the game that means that you have to stay online to play your single player game

- The Ubisoft servers work fine.

- Because the Ubisoft servers are working fine you can play SH 5

- The hackers run a DOS attack on the servers

- Because the hackers run a DOS attack on the Ubisoft servers you cannot play SH 5

- It's Ubisoft's fault for making me have to be online when there is a dos attack going on, its also the pirates fault for carrying out a dos attack

- I'm angry at both
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Old 03-14-10, 08:28 AM   #4
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The more threads I see like this the bigger my smile gets.

All of you who are in the least bit angry at all at anyone regardless if its the "pirates" or the pirates(UBI). The only person you should be angry at is yourself for agreeing to spend 50$ on a game that you do not own.

Remember no one held a gun to your head and told you to buy the "rent" to play the game. The only people you should blame for this is yourselves.
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Old 03-14-10, 08:29 AM   #5
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Looks like there new DRM is working really great and is stopping 1000's of people from being able to play.....


But there is one little problem,it the 1000's of people that payed for the game
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Old 03-14-10, 08:33 AM   #6
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The more threads I see like this the bigger my smile gets.

All of you who are in the least bit angry at all at anyone regardless if its the "pirates" or the pirates(UBI). The only person you should be angry at is yourself for agreeing to spend 50$ on a game that you do not own.

Remember no one held a gun to your head and told you to buy the "rent" to play the game. The only people you should blame for this is yourselves.
Nice to see how much you care about the people on these forums.

P.s. I got my copy of the game at almost half price - well worth the risk I thought
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Old 03-14-10, 08:36 AM   #7
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Nice to see how much you care about the people on these forums.
The smug superiority he feels by making snide comments to strangers on the internet is probably all the self esteem he has in his impotent life. Let him have his moment.
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Old 03-14-10, 08:37 AM   #8
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The smug superiority he feels by making snide comments to strangers on the internet is probably all the self esteem he has in his impotent life. Let him have his moment.
Rgr that
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Old 03-14-10, 12:00 PM   #9
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The smug superiority he feels by making snide comments to strangers on the internet is probably all the self esteem he has in his impotent life. Let him have his moment.
There is no smug superiority, it is my opinion. But you still only have yourselves to blame for the fact that you have a game that you can't play. You knew the risk of it when you bought it, yet you still bought it.

I don't particularly care for any of your opinions yet do I attack you? No, have I attacked you? No. Will I attack you? No.

I simply stated that people are blaming UBI and the pirates, yet UBI nor the pirates held a gun to your head and demanded that you buy the game or die.

Just because my opinion differs from yours, whether great or small doesn't mean that I have a holier than though opinion. Its is just my opinion. But seeing as you were to busy posting back to back to back with your buddy attacking my opinion means that you must be one of the ones who are not able to play the game. So if it makes you feel better to attack me because you can't play the game you bought. So be it. I'll allow you to have that satisfaction, simple as it may be.

Good day. Enjoy the game.
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Old 03-14-10, 08:26 AM   #10
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- The Ubisoft servers work fine as long as there is not much traffic to handle.

- Because there is much traffic Ubisoft servers aren't working fine and you can't play SH 5

- The hackers are getting the blame (running a DOS attack on the servers)

- Because the hackers run a DOS attack on the Ubisoft servers you cannot sue UBI

- It's that simple
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Old 03-14-10, 04:56 PM   #11
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Again... just so I understand the logic of your analogy.


- The Ubisoft servers work fine.

- Because the Ubisoft servers are working fine you can play SH 5

- The hackers run a DOS attack on the servers

- Because the hackers run a DOS attack on the Ubisoft servers you cannot play SH 5

- It's Ubisoft's fault


Have I pretty well got it?

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Again... just so I understand the logic of your analogy.


- The Ubisoft servers work fine, but they are not DDOS-hardened.

- Because the Ubisoft servers are working fine you can play SH 5

- The hackers run a DOS attack on the servers, as expected part of being online

- Because the hackers run a DOS attack on the Ubisoft servers you cannot play SH 5

- It's Ubisoft's fault because they didn't harden against expected and typical attacks

- Kind of like the bank keeping your money in a mattress in a back room.


Have I pretty well got it?

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Old 03-18-10, 03:00 AM   #12
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- Ubi produces game many people have no option to play in single player.

- Ubi is denying me and thousands like me, the ability to play SH5, and unlike people with slow computers, no amount of money I can throw at the problem will fix it to enable me to play the game.

- Everyone who buys a copy of SH5 or any other OSP, whether they agree with it or not, whether they have pretty little 'protest signatures' or not, are directly supporting Ubi's policy, and thus by endorsing Ubi's policy, you are denying me the ability to play a single player game.

- I generally don't support hackers, crackers, pirates or other online fiends, but in this case, they're the only one sticking up for me while you all who bought the game effectively stabbing me and everyone else in my position in the back and say 'well sorry mate, but thanks for all the laughs but ummm...Bye'

- Ubi needs to be taught a lesson and brought back down to Earth.
I have no sympathy for anyone who can't log onto this system.



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Again... just so I understand the logic of your analogy.


- The Ubisoft servers work fine.

- Because the Ubisoft servers are working fine you can play SH 5

- The hackers run a DOS attack on the servers

- Because the hackers run a DOS attack on the Ubisoft servers you cannot play SH 5

- It's Ubisoft's fault


Have I pretty well got it?

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Old 03-18-10, 05:39 AM   #13
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You read through all my posts?
Thats really quite sad, but anyway...

I also posted it on SimHQ's boards<SNIP>
Well I must admit that I don't frequent 'Tank Net' to read about submarine simulations. You only had about 30 posts that were in a relevant date range and there is a preview on them, so it only took about two minutes. I can see how for some that spending two minutes to find out if something is true or not would be considered 'sad', but I am happy to spend such a vast amount of time to research things. Mookie on the other hand is a prolific poster of prose and I wasn't going to look through his posts, because that would have taken more than two minutes and like who's got that kind of time OMG LOL!

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This is from the 23rd of February since "proof" of what you seem to think of as my amazing Nostradamus like abilities is seemingly so important to you...

http://208.84.116.223/forums/index.p...ic=30523&st=40

Post #47


As someone who was willingly thrown under the bus by Ubisoft, (Since my money clearly isn't worth as much as yours) I'm now off to the pub, to see if I can play a little 'sink the sub', have fun!
All I asked for was a link to the post, as I was interested to read it. I don't know where all your anger is coming from. You said you had posted it and I had not seen it, so I asked where it was. I did ask politely too. I assumed it was posted on subsim, as that's the forum we are on and it's not a prerequisite to read 'Tank Net' as a companion site to subsim.

I don't think you really mean that you were willingly thrown under the bus do you? That would mean that you wanted it to happen.

I don't think in any case that 'every hacker on the planet' did take part in a DDOS attack, as that would be rather a lot of attacks, by rather a lot of people. Also, the groundswell of opinion is currently turning to their never having been a DDOS attack and it being a ruse by Ubisoft to hide their servers lack of capacity to cope with normal demand at peak times. Which is the turth, I don't know.
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Old 03-18-10, 05:43 AM   #14
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I can see the point of anger coming from many folks who have resisted the temptation to buy SH5, feeling they have been let down by those of us who have bought the game and struggle on with the DRM issues and to a lesser degree bugs.

I can also accept that we who bought SH5 are sort of feeding the beast because if Ubi can turn around and say the whole DRM meltdown hardly effected sales, then we all lose as they will continue to ignore the customer base over DRM.

What does not help though, is unofficial spokesmen for Ubsioft (will resist the temptation to call them fanbois) trying to insist their servers are fine and the game is fine in general. I'm getting really sick of the over the top defence of Ubisoft, just as sick as i am getting of the over the top ranting.
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