[REL] Better Torpedo Graphics

coronas · 03-14-10, 04:38 AM

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keep all the warhead colours the same (I like the gold one) and just change the body and band colour?

Yes, please!
Good work BTW.

HanSolo78 · 03-14-10, 04:49 AM

Nice addition! The stock ones hurt my eyes!
Thx!

Decoman · 03-14-10, 06:36 AM

Q: Exactly which type of torpedoes are in the game? Does anyone know? I haven't found any file listing them.

The torpedoes.dds file show 19 different looking torpedoes, including what might be a decoy or something.

Also, I just noticed that the OP has used a larger texture file 1024x1024 px instead of the old 512x512 px. Since he only has a texture file in his mod, I assume changing the texture resolution is pretty straight forward.

The game scale the texture for displaying the torpedoes.

Edit2: By searching for images on the internet, it seem clear that torpedo #3-6 are acoustic torpedoes, of type T4 (falke) and maybe later variants. Apparantly the length of G7e and G7a and acoustic torps are the same, but with different looking rear part and detonator. I guess torpedo #7-19 are a mix of G7e's and G7a's. I have no idea what torpedo #2 are.

My suggestion:
• Lighter metal finish for gas turbine torps
• Darker metal finish for electric torps
• Lettering indicating T1, T2 etc, shown outside icon of torpedo
• Same colored warhead (all used the same explosive warhead afaik)
• Additional colored band behind warhead, indicating FAT/LUT
• Different shapes for G7a, G7e and other torpedoes

And I would be happy to render this out and create a 1024x1024 texture. The larger texture that OP included seem genious. The image would then always scale down, instead of scaling up to fit various screen resolutions.

sergei · 03-14-10, 06:49 AM

The game uses 11 of these.
The rest are left over from SH4 (it is exactly the same graphic, just re-used!)
Give me 10 minutes, I'll post a pic showing which ones are used, and what each torpedo type is.
I don't remember resizing the file to be honest, but I've been messing around with this for a week, so I guess I forgot. Looks like it worked out OK!
I'll get back to you.

sergei · 03-14-10, 08:18 AM

Sorry it took me so long. Loaded up the game and got sidetracked trying to tweak something else.
Here you go, SH5 torpedo guide.

Decoman · 03-14-10, 08:19 AM

Edit: Thanks Sergei!

I found a list mentioned on the forum here: Ammunition.upc

T1 (G7a)
T1 LUT I (G7a)
T1 FAT I (G7a)

T2 (G7e)
T3 (G7e)
T3 LUT II (G7e)
T3 FAT II (G7e)

T4 Falke (G7es)
T5 Zaunkönig I (G7es)
T7 Steinbarsch (G7ut)
T11 Zaunkönig II (G7es)

sergei · 03-14-10, 09:46 AM

Decoman, have a look at what conus00 has achieved with the torpedo graphics
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=35
Really nice job!

Decoman · 03-14-10, 06:09 PM

Btw, the in game G7a torp seem to be textured light gray and with blue'ish warhead.

Here is my first attempt: Linky png image

I should try to make it 1px higher and with better contrast.

Odd, the same T1 torp image seem to scale differently.

Lol typing text was a bad idea. 'T1' is mirrored for rear tube.

I suppose you can make two versions, it's the same with me. I'll likely work on this further. Some might find the torps too slim perhaps.

Calculations show that the small torp is about 1-2px too long. Easy to adjust.

Here is the larger file: Linky big png image

sergei · 03-14-10, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decoman

The larger texture that OP included seem genious.

That was an accident that just happened to work out OK

03-14-10, 06:09 PM	#8
Decoman Frogman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 306 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Btw, the in game G7a torp seem to be textured light gray and with blue'ish warhead. Here is my first attempt: Linky png image I should try to make it 1px higher and with better contrast. Odd, the same T1 torp image seem to scale differently. Lol typing text was a bad idea. 'T1' is mirrored for rear tube. I suppose you can make two versions, it's the same with me. I'll likely work on this further. Some might find the torps too slim perhaps. Calculations show that the small torp is about 1-2px too long. Easy to adjust. Here is the larger file: Linky big png image Last edited by Decoman; 03-14-10 at 06:37 PM.

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03-14-10, 04:49 AM	#2
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	Nice addition! The stock ones hurt my eyes! Thx! __________________

03-14-10, 06:36 AM	#3
Decoman Frogman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 306 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Q: Exactly which type of torpedoes are in the game? Does anyone know? I haven't found any file listing them. The torpedoes.dds file show 19 different looking torpedoes, including what might be a decoy or something. Also, I just noticed that the OP has used a larger texture file 1024x1024 px instead of the old 512x512 px. Since he only has a texture file in his mod, I assume changing the texture resolution is pretty straight forward. The game scale the texture for displaying the torpedoes. Edit2: By searching for images on the internet, it seem clear that torpedo #3-6 are acoustic torpedoes, of type T4 (falke) and maybe later variants. Apparantly the length of G7e and G7a and acoustic torps are the same, but with different looking rear part and detonator. I guess torpedo #7-19 are a mix of G7e's and G7a's. I have no idea what torpedo #2 are. My suggestion: • Lighter metal finish for gas turbine torps • Darker metal finish for electric torps • Lettering indicating T1, T2 etc, shown outside icon of torpedo • Same colored warhead (all used the same explosive warhead afaik) • Additional colored band behind warhead, indicating FAT/LUT • Different shapes for G7a, G7e and other torpedoes And I would be happy to render this out and create a 1024x1024 texture. The larger texture that OP included seem genious. The image would then always scale down, instead of scaling up to fit various screen resolutions. Last edited by Decoman; 03-14-10 at 07:12 AM.

03-14-10, 06:49 AM	#4
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	The game uses 11 of these. The rest are left over from SH4 (it is exactly the same graphic, just re-used!) Give me 10 minutes, I'll post a pic showing which ones are used, and what each torpedo type is. I don't remember resizing the file to be honest, but I've been messing around with this for a week, so I guess I forgot. Looks like it worked out OK! I'll get back to you.

03-14-10, 08:18 AM	#5
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Sorry it took me so long. Loaded up the game and got sidetracked trying to tweak something else. Here you go, SH5 torpedo guide.

03-14-10, 08:19 AM	#6
Decoman Frogman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 306 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Edit: Thanks Sergei! I found a list mentioned on the forum here: Ammunition.upc T1 (G7a) T1 LUT I (G7a) T1 FAT I (G7a) T2 (G7e) T3 (G7e) T3 LUT II (G7e) T3 FAT II (G7e) T4 Falke (G7es) T5 Zaunkönig I (G7es) T7 Steinbarsch (G7ut) T11 Zaunkönig II (G7es)

03-14-10, 09:46 AM	#7
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Decoman, have a look at what conus00 has achieved with the torpedo graphics http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=35 Really nice job!