The facts of life: A heartfelt defense of Ubisoft and DRM

[NefariousKoel]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

that's the spirit! let's stoop to personal insults, how mature, how adult...

How about a good old fashioned lynching? would you like that kiddies? they used to be very popular in the south.

I dont know why the moderators dont just lock this thread, this turning into a farce..

I didn't quite say everything I wanted to about Trenken or whatever his name is. Telling people to "keep their bitching in the 20+ other DRM threads" warrants more.

And your reference to Southerners lynching people is hardly a metaphor without ridiculous, biased, insult. Perhaps you should take your buddy, the ex-Starforce employee, and fill out hate crime charges.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

I didn't quite say everything I wanted to about Trenken or whatever his name is. Telling people to "keep their bitching in the 20+ other DRM threads" warrants more.

And your reference to Southerners lynching people is hardly a metaphor without ridiculous, biased, insult. Perhaps you should take your buddy, the ex-Starforce employee, and fill out hate crime charges.

I may have gone overboard last night with my comments. This forum is turning from a subsim forum to a Ubisoft DRM forum and I am getting tired of seeing the same discussions over and over again.

Just so we are clear, I tolerate Uplay because I have no choice, not because I like it. I would rather it was not there.

However resorting to personal insults is not what this forum is all about, unless we want this to turn into a Kindergarden like the Zoo referred to as the Ubi forum. If we want newbies to adhere to the Subsim standards, its essential that longstanding members like you and I set the example.

[Skullcowboy]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I may have gone overboard last night with my comments. This forum is turning from a subsim forum to a Ubisoft DRM forum and I am getting tired of seeing the same discussions over and over again.

Just so we are clear, I tolerate Uplay because I have no choice, not because I like it. I would rather it was not there.

However resorting to personal insults is not what this forum is all about, unless we want this to turn into a Kindergarden like the Zoo referred to as the Ubi forum. If we want newbies to adhere to the Subsim standards, its essential that longstanding members like you and I set the example.

Respectfully, Bilge_Rat, I submit to you that you DO have a choice. All of us, as consumers do. That's kinda what lights me up sometimes is when companies and people like the OP try to convince us that we don't have a choice and we should just put up with it and give em the money. And I think that's why they try so hard to make us look like pirates or fringe activists trying to stir up trouble.
I am neither. I am a dedicated gamer who spends $100's per year on games and about a grand every other year upgrading my PC.

Yea, I'm one of those guys. Just ask my wife.

But back to it. You do have a choice. And I'll never rank on you no matter which direction you go.

[IanC]

Of course we all have a choice. If nobody bought DRM/OSP games, the game companies would dump it and find another form of protection.
unfortunately that's in theory only.

[Iridium]

Originally Posted by IanC

Of course we all have a choice. If nobody bought DRM/OSP games, the game companies would dump it and find another form of protection.

... and would blame the lack of sales on piracy rather than their own poor development, leading them instead to stop making PC games in the laughable belief that only PC games get pirated. Because, of course, how could the publishers possibly be the ones doing wrong?

[RSColonel_131st]

Originally Posted by Iridium

... and would blame the lack of sales on piracy rather than their own poor development, leading them instead to stop making PC games in the laughable belief that only PC games get pirated. Because, of course, how could the publishers possibly be the ones doing wrong?

Well, in this case they shot themself in the foot: As long as UBI claims that OSP has not been cracked, they can't blame pirates for bad sales figures.

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st

Well, in this case they shot themself in the foot: As long as UBI claims that OSP has not been cracked, they can't blame pirates for bad sales figures.

Did they ever claim it was not cracked?

Look guys, im not trying to troll, im trying to say that the amount of complaining in this forum is ridiculous, and i'd love the chance to talk about the game without sifting through 10 boycott ubi threads, thats all. Cant we all just take a chill pill and wait a few weeks for the kinks to be ironed out? This is a brand new game. Personally Starforce was way worse on my computer, and i havent had any problems whatsoever with the DRM, thats not to say that you have not, but if it works fine for me, why not you?

I'll tone down or even stop arguing in this thread if thats what the community wants, also how can i prove i'm not whatever guy you guys were talking about? I'm also available for Al Qaida trial defense and Hitler Argentinia sneaking, just to complete the "Make everyone mad" trifecta