Is it really worth the effort to raid harbours when the opportunity to do so arises?

[Paul Riley]

I dont think I will like it much Jim,I prefer active more mobile combat out to sea,as opposed to just sitting there and waiting for the sheep to return to the fold.
I'll give it a go tonight,if nothing i'll hang around some known lanes in the North sea.Things may pick up next patrol,it still is only 9th Sept 1939.

[desirableroasted]

If you can get over to the Hebrides Strait, you should do quite nicely... it's a regular Broadway.... I always go down and out that way when heading to the Western Approaches.

On the patrol I am now on, I killed 30K in waifs and strays there just with the deck gun (unusually good weather, though).

And if you are feeling fly, you can always hang around outside Loch Ewe for a few days. I've popped Hood there in the first month of war (but that was in GWX 2.x)

[maillemaker]

Once, in 1939 before war broke out, I sailed my uboat into Portsmouth and parked alongside three british subs. I took a screen shot, too.

Steve

[djcazpa]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I dont think I will like it much Jim,I prefer active more mobile combat out to sea,as opposed to just sitting there and waiting for the sheep to return to the fold.
I'll give it a go tonight,if nothing i'll hang around some known lanes in the North sea.Things may pick up next patrol,it still is only 9th Sept 1939.

sorry to but in to your question with another but you mentioned "waiting for the sheep to return to the fold." Do the ai ships actually leave and dock at certain times and return frm patrols ect.... just never read about it or anything and would be interesting if the ai were to do that... then it would mean if you know a port where a certain ship like for example hood or somthing ushally docked and if you were determined you could wait picking of the small frys and any returning boats till your fish came into sights... or ships docking and leaving the ports not a thing in shIII

Also if it does.. does this mean that the game is historicaly acurate with where certain ships were around the war??

[maillemaker]

With the exception of escorts patrolling harbors, and friendly harbor traffic, I have never seen ships moving about in enemy harbors. They are always at anchor from what I have seen.

Steve

[The Enigma]

I've sunk a lot of ships in harbors.
As a matter of fact, if I fail to find some ships at sea, I'll set course to the nearest harbor.

It's always changeling to bypass the warships.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by djcazpa

sorry to but in to your question with another but you mentioned "waiting for the sheep to return to the fold." Do the ai ships actually leave and dock at certain times and return frm patrols ect.... just never read about it or anything and would be interesting if the ai were to do that... then it would mean if you know a port where a certain ship like for example hood or somthing ushally docked and if you were determined you could wait picking of the small frys and any returning boats till your fish came into sights... or ships docking and leaving the ports not a thing in shIII

Also if it does.. does this mean that the game is historicaly acurate with where certain ships were around the war??

A lot of the scripting in GWX3.0 is historically accurate but the game engine will not render ships within 30/50km of you, so whilst it is possible to see a ship disappear it is impossible to see one appear.

[djcazpa]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

A lot of the scripting in GWX3.0 is historically accurate but the game engine will not render ships within 30/50km of you, so whilst it is possible to see a ship disappear it is impossible to see one appear.

I guessed that what I ment was ships like for examplenot that am going to do this tho) Say I sat at a harbour in sh3 and waited would I see a convoy arrive and dock then leave again or a warship thats docked leave for patrol then come back and dock again or is the harbour traffic just static

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by djcazpa

I guessed that what I ment was ships like for examplenot that am going to do this tho) Say I sat at a harbour in sh3 and waited would I see a convoy arrive and dock then leave again or a warship thats docked leave for patrol then come back and dock again or is the harbour traffic just static

I've never noticed traffic like that, just the usual patrol vessels, docked ships, and however many merchants pop up in the area while I'm there.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by djcazpa

I guessed that what I ment was ships like for examplenot that am going to do this tho) Say I sat at a harbour in sh3 and waited would I see a convoy arrive and dock then leave again or a warship thats docked leave for patrol then come back and dock again or is the harbour traffic just static

If a convoy is scripted to disappear at its final waypoint (which is usually the case) say, 20km from a harbour entrance....then yes if you are in close proximity you would witness it vanishing...but you will never see one appear or start its journry because units will not render ingame if you are within rendering range which is 30-50km.

Originally Posted by jimbuna

If a convoy is scripted to disappear at its final waypoint (which is usually the case) say, 20km from a harbour entrance....then yes if you are in close proximity you would witness it vanishing...but you will never see one appear or start its journry because units will not render ingame if you are within rendering range which is 30-50km.

Can you give me a hint where the convoys passing through AM53 end?
I'm wondering if getting close to Liverpool is worth the risks.
(30 miles or so. I don't harbor raid.)

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

If a convoy is scripted to disappear at its final waypoint (which is usually the case) say, 20km from a harbour entrance....then yes if you are in close proximity you would witness it vanishing...but you will never see one appear or start its journry because units will not render ingame if you are within rendering range which is 30-50km.

Interesting Jim.
So just to clarify,if I was say 20km from an enemy port you wouldnt normally see active traffic come and go in the area?This really is a shame.
I guess this forces the player to be more active in his playing style,and that suits me fine
The only traffic I have ever seen at ports is usually no more than 3 moored vessels,and they are usually no bigger than rowing boats and thats it.Come to think of it,if the game rendered a huge amount of traffic (as in real life) the fps would probably drop to about 1 fps,and the complaints would soon mount up.
Just for the record I managed to nail an inbound medium cargo just south of the Shetlands last night,this area is crawling it seems!