What does elenaiba say...

[Sonarman]

He would probably say that his nickname is spelled elanaiba not elenaiba! But he's probably too busy fixing things to say anything right now.

Originally Posted by Sonarman

He would probably say that his nickname is spelled elanaiba not elenaiba! But he's probably too busy fixing things to say anything right now.

Yes, I bet he is very busy right now working ... Actually, right about now he is very busy trying to convince people that the DRM is still alive. This is his major problem now, his number on epriority now, on "DRM has failed" thread:
"That is not a full crack, the game won't work as intended." elenaiba
Defending the nest, the hands that feeds you principles ...

[Tomi_099]

I think he says it's all a matter of time and money, and the time did not!

Originally Posted by Tomi_099

I think he says it's all a matter of time and money, and the time did not!

Every time I see The Grey Wolves related images I realize again who are the ones that deserves praise and respect.

[MGR1]

Although I haven't bought SH5, I think that, generally, people need to be very, very careful how they phrase things when criticizing/offering feedback.

Yes, it does seem that, like SH4, SH5 is another unfinished game, for various reasons.

Yes, people are going to have their hopes raised and then dashed because X, Y and Z aren't in the game or have been poorly implemented.

Yes, people are going to vent their frustration.

Constant negative "vibes" are going to be counterproductive.

Keep doing this and elanaiba and the other devs are going to develop a "seige mentality", if they haven't already developed one!

A lot of what seems to have occured with SH5 (and this is my own view) is due to time. The devs probably pitched the new features to the publishers, but either weren't given a realistic time schedule, or something happened during the developement phase - something must have taken longer than planned. This put other things behind, which has had an impact on the game as released.

Perhaps, the beta-testers are too close to the design process to give cold, hard constructive feedback to give the devs an impartial view of a game they have been working with near constantly.

If you are doing that, as in being so close you "can't see the wood for the trees" and can't take a step back and view utterly impartially, of course things are going to be missed. Perhaps a lack of fresh eyes ,as it were, hampers tha design process?

Who knows.

Either way, it's clear that, as it currently stands, the game ain't that good. Hopefully, patches and mods will go a long way to fixing things, but we'll see if SH5 survives the negativity.

So the moral is, be careful how you say things. Think long and hard before hitting the keyboard!

Just a thought,

Mike.

Originally Posted by MGR1

Keep doing this and elanaiba and the other devs are going to develop a "seige mentality", if they haven't already developed one!

Please ...The devs are not some saints, they are not some kind of martyrs either. They have good qualities and they have some bad ones. One of my bad qualities is that I may not be so diplomatic as the average guy here, but still, I am not trying to insult anyone. The devs simply must take responsibility for their products. Unless you are seeing them as fragile as Barbie puppets, or some china. They are supposed to be men. I am still waiting to find out if they really are.

[IpseDixit]

Well, obviously he's too preoccupied doing swan dives into his Olympic-size swimming pool filled with gold coins (Scrooge McDuck-style) and cackling fiendishly to answer your question right away!

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by Gunnodayak

Please ...Don't victimize the devs, they are not some kind of martyrs. They simply must take responsability for their products. Unless you are seeing them as fragile as Barbie puppets, or some china. They are supposed to be men. I am still waiting to find out if they really are.

Yes, but remember that the devs are "human beings" with all the frailties therof.

I would be very easy to provoke them into throwing a strop and telling us all to **** off.

Yes, we all have to take criticism, and some people take it better than others.

Yes, they may have to offer an explanation of some sort - IF they are allowed to do so!

As you and elanaiba seem to have a history, it would seem likely that, you, personally, are less likely to get an answer out of him.

You are allowed to have your views, as do I.

Let's agree to disagree on this one, shall we?

I've no desire to get involved a forum politics or have an argument with someone.

Mike.

Originally Posted by MGR1

I would be very easy to provoke them into throwing a strop and telling us all to **** off.



Let's agree to disagree on this one, shall we?

I agree to disagree with you, Mike! Really. And I also agree to agree with you in some respects. But about they telling us to .... They are not making me or anyone else's here a favor. No, they can't do that, because that would mean lower sales, they will affect UBI's image. So, they are not doing that because they don't feel the need to do that, but only because they are not allowed to.

[zakarpatska]

Originally Posted by Gunnodayak

The devs simply must take responsibility for their products. Unless you are seeing them as fragile as Barbie puppets, or some china. They are supposed to be men. I am still waiting to find out if they really are.

As someone who works in software development I can tell you it is not the devs that have responsibility for the code - it is the software managers. The devs write the code, but it is the managers that determine which features go in (or out), whether the devs work on bug fixes for legacy prodcuts or new development, schedule, release process, quality levels that need to be achieved prior to release, managing the team by getting rid of developers that are not performing up to expectations, etc.

It seems to me your are putting a lot responsibility on the devs for things that they have no control over. I doubt the developers made the decision to go with OSP.