[TEC] In-Game whiz weel

reaper7 · 03-02-10, 03:35 PM

Ha I was just messing about with photoshop myself doing up some mock ups myself for the SH5 perisope Interface.
Trying to fill in the time waining on SH5 to arrive.
Was looking at this pic as seen on the SH3 Forum for a Angriffsscheibe:

If you like I could redo my own AOB graphics in this style for you to incorporate to keep it more in line with the uBoat theme.

gutted · 03-02-10, 03:43 PM

Someone added one into SH3? Sheesh, i should go back and see everything thats been done with it sometime. I had moved to SH4 full time too soon i guess hehe.

Anyway, thats awesome. Was it tied to the scope, ship heading, and AOB inputs?

As for graphics, im sure ppl will have different opinions on whats better. For me, it's readability and usability. And that one is a bit harsh on the eyes, but then again.. i've stared at the other one so long anything would look foreign to me heheheh.

reaper7 · 03-02-10, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gutted

Was it tied to the scope, ship heading, and AOB inputs?.

Heres a link to the topic. Haven't tried it myself, it was one I came across researching is-was slide rules when doing my AOB Calculator.

Pic of the AOB finder in SH3 Mod

Link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ngriffsscheibe

gutted · 03-02-10, 03:59 PM

Bah.. i dont need an AOB finder. I'm at the point where i can guess it pretty close by eye. But i do very much like using an AOB Wheel, because it can give you all sorts of useful info besides just an AOB.

reaper7 · 03-02-10, 04:41 PM

Hi Gutted, here's a comcept similar to yours using the Angriffsscheibe.
Agree the AOB Finder would be limited in use and take up to much room.
Have shown a U-jagd Stoppuhr in place of the standard stopwatch which could be tied to your speed calculator.

gutted · 03-02-10, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by reaper7

Have shown a U-jagd Stoppuhr in place of the standard stopwatch which could be tied to your speed calculator.

before that chrono would be of any use.. we'd need the ship lengths displayed on the rec manual.

jmr · 03-03-10, 03:02 AM

Hmmm I don't have SHV yet but awhile back I downloaded a mod that replaced ship speed with length in the recognition manual for SHIV. Of course they had to go through each .cfg for every ship to find its length to do the necessary replacement. Not what I would call an eloquent solution but it's better than nothing until a modder tackles it.

BTW, gutted, did you use to play WW2OL? That handle is familiar.

Sailor Steve · 03-02-10, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gutted

Someone added one into SH3?

Yeppers. Hitman made a downloadable one that you can print out and make your own 'real' version, and joegrundman made this wonderful mod:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=u-jagd+tools

Onelifecrisis's (the plural would normally be crises, but since it's a name...) OLC-GUI is based on that, and is one a lot of folks absolutely love.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=u-jagd+tools

gutted · 03-02-10, 04:44 PM

Oh yes, now i remember, the U-Jagd tools. I did check that out briefly a long time ago, but i don't recal playing around with the AOB Wheel.

I did however use the Chrono from that mod as a template for the speed solver artwork.

As for the pull down AOB Finder, im not really interested in that. Just seems like too much trouble for something that can easily be done by eye.

Flopper · 03-03-10, 08:37 AM

Now y'all are making me consider ordering a new machine. It's all of these tools and wheels and gizmos that keep me in sh3 instead of sh4.

joegrundman · 03-03-10, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper7

Ha I was just messing about with photoshop myself doing up some mock ups myself for the SH5 perisope Interface.
Trying to fill in the time waining on SH5 to arrive.
Was looking at this pic as seen on the SH3 Forum for a Angriffsscheibe:

If you like I could redo my own AOB graphics in this style for you to incorporate to keep it more in line with the uBoat theme.

or why not just take these existing images and use them directly?

this was linked to bearing and heading, but not aob. with python should be a piece of cake to link in aob

lastly, it is not necessary to have highly accurate shiplength data to make effective use of the u-jagd chrono, contrary to popular opinion. After all, highly accurate and reliable data was not available in real life

gutted · 03-03-10, 04:47 AM

Because its not easy on the eyes. In Real-Life... maybe, but those clear things on a 2D dial? bleh!

I'd prefer to have something alittle easier to look at and operate. It doesn't have to be the one i posted, but.. hopefully it will retain it's ease of use.

But thats my opinion. You guys feel free to do it however you want. I'll just swap it out on my end

don1reed · 03-03-10, 05:10 AM

gutted, it might be worth while pointing out that the Angriffsschreibe provided above by joegrundman and Hitman is an exact copy of the one that now sits in the Royal Navy Submarine Museum, Gosport, UK. It's what the Kreigsmarine really used.

joegrundman · 03-03-10, 05:13 AM

i think if he cared about historical feel, he'd have used the actual USN submarine attack course finder rather than the primary colours tool above

gutted · 03-03-10, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joegrundman

lastly, it is not necessary to have highly accurate shiplength data to make effective use of the u-jagd chrono, contrary to popular opinion. After all, highly accurate and reliable data was not available in real life

It's not that i need highly accurate ship length data.. it's just that i have absolutely no idea how long a given ship "might" be.. especially so in meters.

150m? 175m? 200m? Hell if i know... i live in the US and we think in feet.

03-02-10, 03:35 PM	#1
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Ha I was just messing about with photoshop myself doing up some mock ups myself for the SH5 perisope Interface. Trying to fill in the time waining on SH5 to arrive. Was looking at this pic as seen on the SH3 Forum for a Angriffsscheibe: If you like I could redo my own AOB graphics in this style for you to incorporate to keep it more in line with the uBoat theme. Last edited by reaper7; 03-02-10 at 03:38 PM. Reason: Added Image

03-03-10, 04:47 AM	#12
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	Because its not easy on the eyes. In Real-Life... maybe, but those clear things on a 2D dial? bleh! I'd prefer to have something alittle easier to look at and operate. It doesn't have to be the one i posted, but.. hopefully it will retain it's ease of use. But thats my opinion. You guys feel free to do it however you want. I'll just swap it out on my end Last edited by gutted; 03-03-10 at 05:03 AM.

03-03-10, 05:10 AM	#13
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	gutted, it might be worth while pointing out that the Angriffsschreibe provided above by joegrundman and Hitman is an exact copy of the one that now sits in the Royal Navy Submarine Museum, Gosport, UK. It's what the Kreigsmarine really used. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell Last edited by don1reed; 03-03-10 at 09:02 AM.

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joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	i think if he cared about historical feel, he'd have used the actual USN submarine attack course finder rather than the primary colours tool above __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

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03-02-10, 03:43 PM	#2
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	Someone added one into SH3? Sheesh, i should go back and see everything thats been done with it sometime. I had moved to SH4 full time too soon i guess hehe. Anyway, thats awesome. Was it tied to the scope, ship heading, and AOB inputs? As for graphics, im sure ppl will have different opinions on whats better. For me, it's readability and usability. And that one is a bit harsh on the eyes, but then again.. i've stared at the other one so long anything would look foreign to me heheheh.

03-02-10, 03:59 PM	#4
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	Bah.. i dont need an AOB finder. I'm at the point where i can guess it pretty close by eye. But i do very much like using an AOB Wheel, because it can give you all sorts of useful info besides just an AOB.

03-02-10, 04:41 PM	#5
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Hi Gutted, here's a comcept similar to yours using the Angriffsscheibe. Agree the AOB Finder would be limited in use and take up to much room. Have shown a U-jagd Stoppuhr in place of the standard stopwatch which could be tied to your speed calculator.

03-03-10, 03:02 AM	#7
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Hmmm I don't have SHV yet but awhile back I downloaded a mod that replaced ship speed with length in the recognition manual for SHIV. Of course they had to go through each .cfg for every ship to find its length to do the necessary replacement. Not what I would call an eloquent solution but it's better than nothing until a modder tackles it. BTW, gutted, did you use to play WW2OL? That handle is familiar.

03-02-10, 04:44 PM	#9
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	Oh yes, now i remember, the U-Jagd tools. I did check that out briefly a long time ago, but i don't recal playing around with the AOB Wheel. I did however use the Chrono from that mod as a template for the speed solver artwork. As for the pull down AOB Finder, im not really interested in that. Just seems like too much trouble for something that can easily be done by eye.

03-03-10, 08:37 AM	#10
Flopper Weps Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Asheville, NC, USA Posts: 356 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	Now y'all are making me consider ordering a new machine. It's all of these tools and wheels and gizmos that keep me in sh3 instead of sh4.