Enormous potential- SH5 allows scripting!

gutted · 03-01-10, 10:27 AM

I've poked about in the menu editor, the goblin editor & the map editor.. but i cannot figure out where this script editor is.

Drifter · 03-01-10, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gutted

I've poked about in the menu editor, the goblin editor & the map editor.. but i cannot figure out where this script editor is.

I wish I could help you, but I don't even have the game yet. Sorry.

scrapser · 03-01-10, 10:33 AM

So does this mean it would be possible to completely change SHV to be akin to SH3 with all boats available, accurately modeled, and include the full period of the war? In short, an upgraded version of SH3? Perhaps even include the PTO? That would be incredible but I'm probably dreaming right now.

Drifter · 03-01-10, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by scrapser

So does this mean it would be possible to completely change SHV to be akin to SH3 with all boats available, accurately modeled, and include the full period of the war? In short, an upgraded version of SH3? Perhaps even include the PTO? That would be incredible but I'm probably dreaming right now.

I cannot really say for sure as I do not yet know how limited the scripting is for SH5. If the UBI devs were really liberal in the script commands made available in the tool set, then I can see almost unlimited potential. Yes, your dream SH5 might actually happen someday.

But I'm not trying to give anyone false hopes here. We will just have to wait and see.

Safe-Keeper · 03-01-10, 10:43 AM

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Please try Oblivion again. You have no idea what modders have done to that game compared to vanilla. Amazing stuff indeed

I thought I had it made when I found the UI fix (made text smaller and whatnot) and the community patch that fixed like a million bugs.

I'll go have another look to be sure

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Look for Delte's Thread of Immersion mods. Great stuff from like-minded folks.

Found it!
http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...c=1046815&st=0

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rik007 · 03-01-10, 10:45 AM

That is very good news indeed. I see already hooks for events like DC, Fire. Need to exercise my python knowledge.

Drifter · 03-01-10, 10:48 AM

Good. I am happy to see modders here are awakening to the potentially unlimited power of scripting SH5. Go get 'em guys.

Gedis · 03-01-10, 10:45 AM

integrated scripting is good, but when there gonna be a lot of mods and lots of different aproaches, causing lots of scripts, there gonna be a performance loss too.
same happened to ofp/arma...
i vote yes to scripting, but only where it is really needed.

P.S. my first post in subsim after years of anonimous reading/watching

Drifter · 03-01-10, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gedis

integrated scripting is good, but when there gonna be a lot of mods and lots of different aproaches, causing lots of scripts, there gonna be a performance loss too.
same happened to ofp/arma...
i vote yes to scripting, but only where it is really needed.

P.S. my first post in subsim after years of anonimous reading/watching

I agree. Many Oblivion mods are incompatible with each other due to conflicting scripts. And yes, sloppy scripts can really kill game performance.

But all in all, I think there should be a celebration that they even included scripting ability in SH5.

Onkel Neal · 03-01-10, 11:04 AM

Should I amend the title to "complaining" ?

karamazovnew · 03-01-10, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Should I amend the title to "complaining" ?

Whining is better under the circumstances. Most of us haven't yet bought the game. Thus we can only whine

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Hey, I hope you liked that mod. As you know, it allows killing people without guards always popping up out of nowhere. Assassin characters are so much more fun. Hehe.

Anyways, as far as saving modded games, I'm really not sure how that works.

I was more of a "scared cat hiding in the dark" than "assassin" but it sure was great to kill a merchant and steal his mithril armor without Monty Python guards hearing me from 10 km away. Your mod one of the essential fixes to the game. So let me also wish you a great welcome to this community and hope to see mods for SH5 from you

As for variables and save games, if it works as Oblivion did, it should be ok. For example, the hunger mod saved the status of a user-created variable.
There's one more thing I actually DO worry about. They said that you can't write stuff in the commander's log. That's so easy to do that I need to wonder why they chose not to implement such a simple thing. It would be a great asset if we could create Text-Boxes and buttons that take those variables and start scripts based on them. If we could mod in stuff like "increase depth by X meters", we could turn this baby into pretty much the perfect sim

Drifter · 03-01-10, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Should I amend the title to "complaining" ?

How about just:

Enormous potential- SH5 allows scripting!

That would be nicer. Thank you.

CCIP · 03-01-10, 02:22 PM

Awesome. I've not got into the news, but this is an extremely powerful tool. It could be our long-wanted solution to things like the ever-present AI gripes.

Denson · 03-01-10, 11:10 AM

Holy Cow !
OK i'll stop whining.

Script editor look's good, maybe i should try to recruit some fellow scripters from Egosoft X3TC community.

Drifter · 03-01-10, 11:44 AM

I am only making my best deductions from Urfisch's few screen shots, but it appears that many things which were hard-coded in SH3-Sh4 are now open to scripting. I think it is safe to say that SH5 will be much, much more moddable.

03-01-10, 10:33 AM	#3
scrapser Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 530 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	So does this mean it would be possible to completely change SHV to be akin to SH3 with all boats available, accurately modeled, and include the full period of the war? In short, an upgraded version of SH3? Perhaps even include the PTO? That would be incredible but I'm probably dreaming right now. __________________ Gaming Computer Specs: CM Stacker 930 DFI LP UT X58-T3eH8 i7 920 CPU TR 120 Extreme HS (lapped) 6 GB OCZ Platinum 1600 (8x175 = 1400) BFG GTX 295 Silverstone DA1000W PSU Sony GDM-FW900 24" Wide Screen CRT WinXP Pro 32-bit

03-01-10, 11:04 AM	#10
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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Awesome. I've not got into the news, but this is an extremely powerful tool. It could be our long-wanted solution to things like the ever-present AI gripes. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

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03-01-10, 10:27 AM	#1
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	I've poked about in the menu editor, the goblin editor & the map editor.. but i cannot figure out where this script editor is.

03-01-10, 10:45 AM	#6
rik007 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 785 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	That is very good news indeed. I see already hooks for events like DC, Fire. Need to exercise my python knowledge.

03-01-10, 10:48 AM	#7
Drifter Frogman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 308 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Good. I am happy to see modders here are awakening to the potentially unlimited power of scripting SH5. Go get 'em guys.

03-01-10, 10:45 AM	#8
Gedis Watch Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lithuania, Vilnius Posts: 16 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	integrated scripting is good, but when there gonna be a lot of mods and lots of different aproaches, causing lots of scripts, there gonna be a performance loss too. same happened to ofp/arma... i vote yes to scripting, but only where it is really needed. P.S. my first post in subsim after years of anonimous reading/watching

03-01-10, 11:10 AM	#14
Denson Seaman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 39 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Holy Cow ! OK i'll stop whining. Script editor look's good, maybe i should try to recruit some fellow scripters from Egosoft X3TC community.

03-01-10, 11:44 AM	#15
Drifter Frogman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 308 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I am only making my best deductions from Urfisch's few screen shots, but it appears that many things which were hard-coded in SH3-Sh4 are now open to scripting. I think it is safe to say that SH5 will be much, much more moddable.