Eraser goes through german UBI Forum...

[Nisgeis]

I wonder if Ubisoft will try to pressure Amazon and other online sites that offer user reviews to remove the zero rated reviews for the implementation of DRM & OSP?

Does deleting threads equate to burning books?

[jazman]

Originally Posted by GertFroebe_neu

How about germans learning english?

PS.: Just kidding.

I've found that it's easier for me to understand Germans speaking English than to understand English speaking English. (I'm American.)

[Wilcke]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

I wonder if Ubisoft will try to pressure Amazon and other online sites that offer user reviews to remove the zero rated reviews for the implementation of DRM & OSP?

Does deleting threads equate to burning books?

Don't think they will, Amazon is a powerhouse retailer that dwarfs an UBI. I look up products that I am contemplating purchasing on Amazon and when I read the review I just shake my head and walk away.

Here is a good example of Amazon at work the LotR, Blu-Ray Theatrical release is set for 4-10. It got thrashed because they are holding onto the Extended Version until next year! So it got over 2000 negative reviews pre-release. It will not sell and folks will just wait till 2011!

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Pic...7209523&sr=8-1

Some products get royally trashed on Amazon, Amazon could care less, they just want to sell. When I put together my HTPC I followed Amazon customer recommendations and chose Pioneer over Denon and Onkyo. I have never regretted the decision. The customer reviews were spot on!

As far as deleting unwanted threads, its their forum, its certainly poor form, and if the customer is always right, they have broken the first and only rule. All you can do is spend your money elsewhere.

[Rockin Robbins]

Agreed, Brag. They forget that the customer always gets what they want from someone willing and able to produce it. The process is sometimes slow and a bit painful, but it always works.

You'll remember that the PC architecture was begun as a closed box IBM machine, which kept all PCs manufactured by a single company, which was slow to provide for the needs of its customers. Then Compaq and others started producing IBM compatible machines, thousands of companies began making superhuman efforts to attract your business and provide new features. The result is the PC you likely have in front of you or in your lap, a machine undreamed of by its original corporate masters.

Economics and evolution are similar in that any vacuum represents an opportunity for some species to occupy a place in the food chain that lacks competition.

Look at the way Aldi has moved into the US after cleaning Wal-Mart's clock in Germany. You can save at least 20% over similar products at Wal-Mart and usually get better quality. Wal-Mart arrogantly lost billions of dollars in Germany. Unable to compete with Aldi, it had to liquidate all German property and move out of the country. Quietly, in the US, Aldi is occupying the vacant low price/high market efficiency position vacated by the now-fat monster. They may only sell food, but that is enough to give Wal-Mart a colossal headache.

Customers hate a company who doesn't meet their needs and refuses to care about the people who send them money. Companies who go the Ubi path are dead men walking. Hope they realize their missteps and reverse course, but that is almost never the case. The larger a company gets, the smaller their brain gets and the longer a message takes to get from the field to the corporate moguls. Conformity takes the place of innovation and customer focus. Finally you can sledge-hammer the tail of the dinosaur and a couple of months later the head says "Ouch!" I hear they DO make very tender and tasty steaks.

[tommyk]

Originally Posted by GertFroebe_neu

How about germans learning english?

trying but the sauerkraut makes it dufficilt

[kylania]

Originally Posted by scrapser

I'll say this again here since I don't see anyone mentioning the fact that Ubisoft is not the only company using this new "constant online connection" approach. Take Two (parent of 2K Games) is also using it and they are catching it from every direction, too.

The main difference is Take Two doesn't make anything I want to play.
Not to mention their entirely flash driven websites are total junk.

I really do feel bad for the Devs though. They made another GREAT game, but because their publisher is the Devil they might fail because the only way to get back at the publisher in this case is through the Developer.

[coronas]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Does deleting threads equate to burning books?

That´s a begining.

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by Wilcke

Here is a good example of Amazon at work the LotR, Blu-Ray Theatrical release is set for 4-10. It got thrashed because they are holding onto the Extended Version until next year! So it got over 2000 negative reviews pre-release. It will not sell and folks will just wait till 2011!

Well that's good, I hate all that theatrical release, then the director's cut, then the 'ultimate cut' version. That's piracy . Especially when they film all the 'deleted scenes' only so they can put them in for the 'director's cut'.

[scrapser]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Agreed, Brag. They forget that the customer always gets what they want from someone willing and able to produce it. The process is sometimes slow and a bit painful, but it always works.

You'll remember that the PC architecture was begun as a closed box IBM machine, which kept all PCs manufactured by a single company, which was slow to provide for the needs of its customers. Then Compaq and others started producing IBM compatible machines, thousands of companies began making superhuman efforts to attract your business and provide new features. The result is the PC you likely have in front of you or in your lap, a machine undreamed of by its original corporate masters.

Economics and evolution are similar in that any vacuum represents an opportunity for some species to occupy a place in the food chain that lacks competition.

Look at the way Aldi has moved into the US after cleaning Wal-Mart's clock in Germany. You can save at least 20% over similar products at Wal-Mart and usually get better quality. Wal-Mart arrogantly lost billions of dollars in Germany. Unable to compete with Aldi, it had to liquidate all German property and move out of the country. Quietly, in the US, Aldi is occupying the vacant low price/high market efficiency position vacated by the now-fat monster. They may only sell food, but that is enough to give Wal-Mart a colossal headache.

Customers hate a company who doesn't meet their needs and refuses to care about the people who send them money. Companies who go the Ubi path are dead men walking. Hope they realize their missteps and reverse course, but that is almost never the case. The larger a company gets, the smaller their brain gets and the longer a message takes to get from the field to the corporate moguls. Conformity takes the place of innovation and customer focus. Finally you can sledge-hammer the tail of the dinosaur and a couple of months later the head says "Ouch!" I hear they DO make very tender and tasty steaks.

Actually IBM willfully sold (licensed) the blueprint for their computer so others could produce them; hence the term, "IBM Clone". The thinking was that if there were lots and lots of IBM type computers out there, all the software development companies would focus on producing IBM compatible software. It worked in the United States. In Europe at the same time, the Commodore Amiga was the leading platform of choice. What killed the Amiga was the company's owner who made horrible business decisions that overextended the company's finances and they went bankrupt.

Think about it. The Amiga was a 16 bit computer with a Windows like operating system (called Workbench) with onboard sound and graphics in 1985! Windows 3.0 and a 16 bit PC didn't arrive until the early 90's.

I miss Amiga sorely.

[Task Force]

Wow... Ubi is acting like a censor... Not good...

[jwilliams]

Originally Posted by scrapser

I miss Amiga sorely.

Me too.


I had a 500+ with 2megs of ram

And windows reminds me of the Amiga's operating system (not sure if microsoft copied it but its very similar).

[GoldenRivet]

Well... that settles it.

that is where I draw my line in the sand.



view this message above... and take something from it

to each true fan of the submarine simulation series... you know what you have to do.

[urfisch]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Well... that settles it.

that is where I draw my line in the sand.



view this message above... and take something from it

to each true fan of the submarine simulation series... you know what you have to do.

mad to see it already was shown in 1976 and nothing changed...its the same today. people are too tired to stand up and yell or do something against the global cheekiness from the elite...

i think, finally everybody will stand up...but this first gonna happen, when we cant sit in our chairs any more, cause we have such aching backs from a sit-job and a bad health system. and finally theres no more money to buy a chair, or we are simply all the time out to earn the money, so we might could buy a chair, but we never will.

life is definately getting mad...is just a question of time, people will recognize, how we are all squeezed out to the last cent.

[The Enigma]

"I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

[Wraithe]

Hopefully nobody expects more from ubi really... This was floating about on the AC2 forums on steam:
http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-d...--154456.phtml

My other UbiFail news:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...-pc-gaming.ars