Census gets personal (US politics)

[mookiemookie]

I wonder if the right wing was so riled up about this back in the 1990 census when Bush I was in office.

Probably not.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I wonder if the right wing was so riled up about this back in the 1990 census when Bush I was in office.

Probably not.

But you have absolutely no idea either way and are just mud slinging hoping that something will stick.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

But you have absolutely no idea either way and are just mud slinging hoping that something will stick.

You know who else counted people? Hitler. That's who.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

and citizens prompted to provide all sorts of personal information. Right down to how many toilets you have in your home

Where do you get this stuff from? The census asks nothing of the sort. Most of the questions are the same ones asked since 1800. You guys are taking this anti-government stuff past partisan and way on into full on crazy.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/ho...ctive-form.php

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

You know who else counted people? Hitler. That's who.

So did the Gandhis. Your point?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

So did the Gandhis. Your point?

Just havin' a bit of fun.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Where do you get this stuff from? The census asks nothing of the sort. Most of the questions are the same ones asked since 1800. You guys are taking this anti-government stuff past partisan and way on into full on crazy.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/ho...ctive-form.php

Wow cool you got a preview copy?

How else could you know what is in there !

Wait here I found one for you .. its the ACS or community survey which is an appendage to the Census.. try page 55

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downlo...ity_Survey.pdf

Please note that by clicking the above link you are rasing a few flags

[Ishmael]

As an actual Census worker(yes, Ma. I finally got a job), albeit a mere courier, I find many of these comments quite amusing. So here's what I tell people about the Census.

1. It was first commissioned in 1790 by that Revolutionary Terrorist, George Wahington.

2. All Census information is held by the Census Bureau of the Dept. of Commerce. All of that sensitive personal information y'all are worried about revealing the National Security Agency is already hoovering up through the Warrantless Wiretap Program and National Security Letters. This was implemented by the:
a.Patriot Act
b.Telecommunications Immunity Bill
c.Communications Act of 1996

Why do you think the NSA is building those two new huge data storage facilities in Utah and Texas? The supercomputers at Fort Meade are running out of storage space. You guys should REALLY take a look at:

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com

There's a lot of great information there about the bipartisan National Security Surveillance State and how it ties in to the Worldwide Surveillance Society as a whole.

So, to put things in a nutshell,

Privacy of Communications is DEAD.

Everything we write, talk about, websurf or anything else on the domestic telecommunications infrastructure is going to the NSA & Mossad. I include the Mossad because both the manufacturers of the Semantic Traffic Analyzers used BY the NSA are Israeli-owned companies with links to the aforementioned Mossad. James Bamford's interview at BFP has a nifty little story about a similar system installed in Australia where the Aussies couldn't get the info they wanted on a specific individual so they contacted the Narus company in Israel who passed that info back to the Australian government from Israel.

But what do I know? I only worked in Broadband Telecommunications Operations for 30 years.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Ishmael

As an actual Census worker(yes, Ma. I finally got a job), albeit a mere courier, I find many of these comments quite amusing. So here's what I tell people about the Census..

One question for you. Was it 'recommended' to you that get the ACS be filled out as well as the actual census?

[Ishmael]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

One question for you. Was it 'recommended' to you that get the ACS be filled out as well as the actual census?

The census forms being mailed to everyone are virtually identical to the forms used in the 1990 & 2000 censuses. It's only when someone fails to return the form that the Census Bureau sends out an enumerator to get the actual count. Hope this clarifies things for you. Also, as a courier, I am tasked to deliver Census paperwork directly to either the field workers/enumerators or the Albuquerque Field Office. I actually have to store it in the trunk of my car whenever I move about. My experience with the Census is that I've seen actual Classified Information that was stored with less attention to security than Census forms.

[GoldenRivet]

to satisfy mookie and his far left agenda ill come right out and say it.

Im NOT a republican

Im NOT a democrat

but my official position:

So long as this administration is in power, and so long as nancy pelosi and her far left progressive, gun hating, God hating AMERICA HATING goons hold the wheel at congress - i will not be cooperative with the powers that be in any way shape or form on the census, or ANY other issue for that matter.

be the president and congress far left... or far right... they are both sprawling and failed models of governance that only represent the interests of the super rich or the poorest of the poor - leaving a HUGE sum of America WITHOUT representation.

My distrust and border line hatred of the federal government was born LONG before anyone voted for a Bush or a Bama or even a Clinton

[Morts]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

to satisfy mookie and his far left agenda ill come right out and say it.

Im NOT a republican

Im NOT a democrat

but my official position:

So long as this administration is in power, and so long as nancy pelosi and her far left progressive, gun hating, God hating AMERICA HATING goons hold the wheel at congress - i will not be cooperative with the powers that be in any way shape or form on the census, or ANY other issue for that matter.

be the president and congress far left... or far right... they are both sprawling and failed models of governance that only represent the interests of the super rich or the poorest of the poor - leaving a HUGE sum of America WITHOUT representation.

My distrust and border line hatred of the federal government was born LONG before anyone voted for a Bush or a Bama or even a Clinton

god hating ?

will not be cooperative with the powers that be in any way shape or form on the census, or ANY other issue for that matter.

Simple solution, you keep saying you want a rebelion and to build a new free state in Texas.
Do it.
Next time you fill up with gas drive off without paying the taxes the evil feds have put on it, make sure you speed on the wrong side of the road as you must not co-operate with the powers to be in any way whatsoever...actually you had better speed off road as it will be an evil government road and they are just persecuting you.

There was quite an interestring article following the Tax terrorist incident the other day about how crazy anti-government conspiracy nuts are quite common in certain areas of certain states no matter which party holds which degree of power.

god hating ?

Don't forget the guns hating.
when some people get frustrated they cling to god and guns for comfort, so obviously anyone who frustrates them must be against those things they cling to.
The

AMERICA HATING

one is the funniest though, since those people are Americans and its the ones who make the accusation who appear to be the ones who hate America.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Morts

god hating ?

Why else remove the mention of God from everything?

@ Tribesman... both parties are really Anti-American.

they both outsource all of our industry, refuse... flat out to protect our sovereignty and seem to do everything they can to smother out our economy.