It is done......

[jwilliams]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Well, you'd install the game, it would validate on the servers and then the autopatching technology would download the patch from the server that meant it didn't have to validate the product on the server that had been shut down. Isn't it obvious?

ROFLMAO

[Méo]

Originally Posted by jwilliams

And where are you going to download the patch in 10 years time????

It's a bit early to worry about the GAME I will be playing in 10 years from now...

Personally, I don't recall playing a 10 years old game, even those I've liked the most.

If Ubi bought out, If ubi go bust.

If If If If If If If If If If If If If If If... ...now back to the topic please.

[THE_MASK]

If the thing is as neals copy and doesnt boot to desktop when disconnected , then i dont have a problem with it . Looking forward to the review by people who buy it .

[Seafireliv]

Originally Posted by kylania

While we shouldn't be personally insulting each other, we also shouldn't be happily forking over money and acting like Ubisoft is doing us a favor either.

You're being treated as a criminal by Ubisoft and you're having to pay for the honor. You're under house arrest. The instant your paid for game goes off line (or the instant Ubisoft's notoriously badly run servers do the same) you get cut off from using the product you only really "rented" at full purchase price.

How everyone is not outraged at this is beyond me. Why anyone would want to support this kind of penalty against paying customers is beyond me as well. Yet in this thread several people are downright PROUD to support the most ill conceived and ridiculous DRM policy ever put in place.

Personally I won't really affect me. I have high speed constant connections at home and at work and I don't travel with a laptop or anything (though the few times I have SH3 was on it!). But at the same time it's painfully clear that Ubisoft is directly attacking their paying customers in the name of fighting piracy and this system is NOT the way to protect their product.

That's why I'm NOT buying this product while Ubisoft treats their customers like criminals while the real criminals get to enjoy their games just fine.*


* as in those that simply hack the game, not the few who buy the game and don't realize how bad an idea this DRM thing is.

Hear! hear!

It should be an insult to every person who has paid hard cash to be treated like this.

I`ll bet one thing though, as soon as your copies of SH5 start quitting for no reason and you get whole hours (and maybe even days) on being unable to play you`ll all be cursing UBI allright.

But it`ll be too late. they`ll give you crocodile tears, spiel you along with excuses then tell you that you accepted it and must live with it. You`ll all be seething with rage while they run off to the bank and award themselves massive bonuses with YOUR money.
Then you guys will wish you had said `No` and forced UBI to give up their 24\7 DRM. And even if it all goes smoothly, you guys will have set a precedent that will ruin Single player game enjoyment for life.

Mark my words.

[ReallyDedPoet]

I am tempted to do the same, pre-order, but would rather wait. Though it worked out in the end, the whole SHIV process was exhausting

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by Seafireliv

Hear! hear!

It should be an insult to every person who has paid hard cash to be treated like this.

Yes it is. DRM is sucky, all the clever kids know this.

Originally Posted by Seafireliv

I`ll bet one thing though, as soon as your copies of SH5 start quitting for no reason and you get whole hours (and maybe even days) on being unable to play you`ll all be cursing UBI allright.

Er... have you been paying attention? I've already been cursing Ubi for their poor DRM policy. Oh hang on, I have it now, yes, you are equating purchasing a product with agreeing with DRM, That's quite strange. Becasue it doesn't mean that at all.

Originally Posted by Seafireliv

But it`ll be too late.

I've already been doing it... so how will my past actions be too late in the future? Interesting... Do you subscribe to the 'Terminator' time travel rules?

Originally Posted by Seafireliv

they`ll give you crocodile tears, spiel you along with excuses then tell you that you accepted it and must live with it. You`ll all be seething with rage while they run off to the bank and award themselves massive bonuses with YOUR money.

Sorry, no idea what weird country you come from, but where I'm from,. if a product doesn't work, it can be returned as defective. That's the LAW. A product has to be fit for purpose. If it isn't, it can be returned. They can laugh as much as they like, whilst giving me a complete refund.

Originally Posted by Seafireliv

Then you guys will wish you had said `No` and forced UBI to give up their 24\7 DRM. And even if it all goes smoothly, you guys will have set a precedent that will ruin Single player game enjoyment for life.

We did say NO to DRM. I mean really... have you been reading these posts... I mean really? How on Earth did you miss that? Like, it's been this big major issue, where almost every thread got some anti-DRM comment in it... where have you been?

Originally Posted by Seafireliv

Mark my words.

You don't seem to be very up to date, so... no! Sha'n't!

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Seafireliv

you guys will have set a precedent that will ruin Single player game enjoyment for life.

a precedent? ...cuz DRM has never been used before?

[OakGroove]

a precedent? ...cuz DRM has never been used before?

No, not a primer. Until then DRM implementations did not require permanent online connection and forced subscription, tied to a single, non transferable account, in order to play an SP title. Loads of people did not touch RoF with a 10ft pole because of this. The publisher rowed back, apparently.

[OakGroove]

you are equating purchasing a product with agreeing with DRM, That's quite strange. Becasue it doesn't mean that at all.

UBIs balance sheets will state that you, we, the buyers, whatever ... are in agreement. That's the only thing that matters.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by OakGroove

The publisher rowed back, apparently.

ok apparently,

but there is still people that don't really mind about being connected since they are always connected anyway, for a lot of reasons, see post #23 #33 #38 and #53

Now this is not the purpose of this thread to continuously debate about this.

[OakGroove]

Now this is not the purpose of this thread to continuously debate about this.

I´m not comfortable with this either, the outcome of all this will not be decided in these forums.

[MasterCaine]

Originally Posted by kylania

How everyone is not outraged at this is beyond me. Why anyone would want to support this kind of penalty against paying customers is beyond me as well. Yet in this thread several people are downright PROUD to support the most ill conceived and ridiculous DRM policy ever put in place.

Here's your answer- Sheeple.. plain and simple. Society these days is full of people who cannot, or will not think for themselves.

[cappy70]

Are you guys figthing with same fury against Settlers 7?

Released soon with same DRM system.

My problem, as I said earlier, and here is the real problem; I must see/play this 100 % myself and a f t e r testing with Settlers 7 there was no problems so far, BUT my really real problem is that when I buy something I want to own it, not you or mr. Ubisoft, I want to own it and decide over it.
Now, if there is 200 other games released with this and only 3 - 4 get a huge support against and the rest goes through, it feels like this good ol' saying: Stay close to your friend but closer to your enemy.

What do I now mean by this: Shut down support against Ubisofts website's, t h i n g s that really h u r t them, shut down ALL interest in any game they release and buy nada/nothing/inget/finitzski, no matter what in the name of DRM.

Meaning simple and easy: When you see the name Ubisoft: Don't buy.
That's how real boycott works, otherwise it is futile.........

...forgot Good ol' SH2 days....

[Heretic]

Originally Posted by MasterCaine

Here's your answer- Sheeple.. plain and simple. Society these days is full of people who cannot, or will not think for themselves.

Lemme see.... a decided minority who, in the face of constant insult and ridicule, decide to buy the game are sheep... and the ones banding with the majority in a drum-beating mass movement demanding conformity are the free thinkers. Makes perfect sense to me.

And so good sir, unashamed, I stand before you in my woolly coat, and proudly proclaim in your general direction, "Baaaa!"

[jazman]

Originally Posted by Heretic

Lemme see.... a decided minority who, in the face of constant insult and ridicule, decide to buy the game are sheep... and the ones banding with the majority in a drum-beating mass movement demanding conformity are the free thinkers. Makes perfect sense to me.

It's called "the herd of independent minds."