VIIB with VIIC conning tower?

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

whats wrong with the VIIC conning tower? I dont see anything wrong with that. I believe me i,m somewhat of an expert when it comes to u-boats.

Well, I am not an expert, but it was obvious to me even in SH3 that the VIIC CT was plain wrong. SeeWolfU-571 has explained it here with pictures:


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3451044928/p/1


In short: the bridge deck should be lowered downwards.

[oscar19681]

Originally Posted by TH0R

Well, I am not an expert, but it was obvious to me even in SH3 that the VIIC CT was plain wrong. SeeWolfU-571 has explained it here with pictures:


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3451044928/p/1


In short: the bridge deck should be lowered downwards.

Yes i was aware of this. But personally i can live with this because its only a minor cosmetic fault. But having the VIIC tower on a VIIB is worse since (apart from the wire cutter) is the only big thing that sets the 2 types apart visually. The viib in sh-5 looks identical to the one in das boot which basicly was a VIIC with a wire cutter. Kind of a hybrid of the 2 types.

[flakmonkey]

Who said that was a photo of the viib? Ive certainly seen photos of early viics that still had the net cutters.

[oscar19681]

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

Who said that was a photo of the viib? Ive certainly seen photos of early viics that still had the net cutters.

If you mean the picture of the concept art then yes its a VIIB since there are only 3 type VII,s in sh-5 and they are all presented on the link in the first post. But if you can show me a picture of a VIIC with a wirew cutter i like to see it.

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

Yes i was aware of this. But personally i can live with this because its only a minor cosmetic fault. But having the VIIC tower on a VIIB is worse since (apart from the wire cutter) is the only big thing that sets the 2 types apart visually. The viib in sh-5 looks identical to the one in das boot which basicly was a VIIC with a wire cutter. Kind of a hybrid of the 2 types.

Early Type VIIC had net cutters IIRC. The DAS BOOT was a proper type VIIC, with net cutters and wave breakers around the deck gun railing. You can see the clear difference between Type VIIB and Type VIIC in the bow section as well - the VIIC is wider.

The SH5 in-game is the later war model, with the same inherent bridge deck error as in SH3. The Type VIIC in SH3 used the same hull for VIIC and VIIC/41 and VIIC/42. In addition, the deck railing was a part of the hull, instead of the conning tower, so the early war Type VIIC looked - horrid...

At least we have a proper deck railing this time. I don't mind the ommited net cutters or the deck gun wave brakers as on VIIB as long as the model is correct, which, again it isn't.

[quad5]

RespectedTH0R, to a great regret all to spit that models in game do not correspond to originals and moders including! Excuse for my bad English.

[oscar19681]

So basicly we have only 2 type VII,s in sh-5 VIIA and VIIC and a VIIC with wirecutter.

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

So basicly we have only 2 type VII,s in sh-5 VIIA and VIIC and a VIIC with wirecutter.

And VIIC/41, which is the best representation of the VIIC. I hope, since it has not been revealed yet.

[oscar19681]

Originally Posted by TH0R

And VIIC/41, which is the best representation of the VIIC. I hope, since it has not been revealed yet.

oh yes how could i forget.

[Florent]

Prien's U47 VIIb has a tower like a VIIc, there is no cut on the basis thus the fact that the in game VIIb is not like the b in silent Hunter III is a no problem for me.

[oscar19681]

Originally Posted by Florent

Prien's U47 VIIb has a tower like a VIIc, there is no cut on the basis thus the fact that the in game VIIb is not like the b in silent Hunter III is a no problem for me.

I dont want to sound like the old one here. But u-47 was a VIIA. Also sh-III did indeed have the correct VIIB

[ReFaN]

Perhaps its unrealistic, but hell it sure looks 100% better then the Real VIIB tower

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

I dont want to sound like the old one here. But u-47 was a VIIA...

Not true: http://www.uboat.net/boats/u47.htm

Though, if you look here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=149950&page=2

some VIIB's had VIIA tower, or so it seems...


But it is easy to confuse them as in early days they didn't have spray defectors fitted on their conning towers.