My Periscope vs SH5's Periscope

CaptainHaplo · 02-16-10, 10:02 PM

I have to say - a well thought out arguement for removing alot of the clutter. However, remember who the game is aimed at - not just the sim buyer - but the casual gamer crowd. Because of that - the accessibility needs to be there.

However, I do like the idea of OPTIONS to turn it all off and select a overlay effect as you suggest. If it doesn't come out like that - expect it to be modded in!

FIREWALL · 02-16-10, 10:11 PM

Excellent post Frederf

QUOTE=CaptainHaplo;1270259]I have to say - a well thought out arguement for removing alot of the clutter. However, remember who the game is aimed at - not just the sim buyer - but the casual gamer crowd. Because of that - the accessibility needs to be there.

However, I do like the idea of OPTIONS to turn it all off and select a overlay effect as you suggest. If it doesn't come out like that - expect it to be modded in![/QUOTE]

I couldn't have said it better Capt.H

Heretic · 02-16-10, 10:38 PM

Wow... That's some inspired imagineering. The first person perspective really lends itself to a different way of looking at things. In the previous games, you were the captain, but you were also more than just the captain, if that makes any sense?

I really hope you'd consider going ahead with this line of thinking for the rest of the UI and sharing it with us. Even if you don't mod it yourself, it's great inspiration.

THE_MASK · 02-16-10, 10:55 PM

Now this is the sort of post i like . Imagine this with voice recognition and Nividia 3D hardware and 120hz monitor.

magic452 · 02-17-10, 12:23 AM

Very good Frederf

The periscope screen in the most important element in the whole game, all the rest is just to get you to that point.

As it now it's the single worse thing I've seen in the game even bigger than the DRM thing. Having the scope off set to the right and so small is a total immersion killer for me, you are looking at a screen and not through a periscope.

What you are suggesting is a very big improvement.

I've never played SH3 so my only experience is with 4 and I use the maxoptics mod so the periscope takes up about 90% of the screen, your whole focus is on what is in the scope.

Your near or through the scope idea sounds great.

Magic

Frederf · 02-16-10, 11:00 PM

The thing is, I don't believe the clutter to be very "casual-friendly" either. I think the clutter is no good for anyone. A complex and, let's be frank, clinical interface is exactly the opposite to what the casual audience would want. Making Silent Hunter look like MS Office with buttons, drop downs, and such can't appeal to the predictable visceral, visual, real wants of the so called casuals.

Clicking this abstract representation, clicking that 2D dial... how unemotional. Isn't it a baser, more emotional instinct to grab the real world controls as they appear before you in 3D instead of letting them be a pretty backdrop for an in-essence 2D adventure?

02-16-10, 10:02 PM	#1
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I have to say - a well thought out arguement for removing alot of the clutter. However, remember who the game is aimed at - not just the sim buyer - but the casual gamer crowd. Because of that - the accessibility needs to be there. However, I do like the idea of OPTIONS to turn it all off and select a overlay effect as you suggest. If it doesn't come out like that - expect it to be modded in! __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-16-10, 10:11 PM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Excellent post Frederf QUOTE=CaptainHaplo;1270259]I have to say - a well thought out arguement for removing alot of the clutter. However, remember who the game is aimed at - not just the sim buyer - but the casual gamer crowd. Because of that - the accessibility needs to be there. However, I do like the idea of OPTIONS to turn it all off and select a overlay effect as you suggest. If it doesn't come out like that - expect it to be modded in![/QUOTE] I couldn't have said it better Capt.H __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-16-10, 10:38 PM	#3
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	Wow... That's some inspired imagineering. The first person perspective really lends itself to a different way of looking at things. In the previous games, you were the captain, but you were also more than just the captain, if that makes any sense? I really hope you'd consider going ahead with this line of thinking for the rest of the UI and sharing it with us. Even if you don't mod it yourself, it's great inspiration. __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information

02-16-10, 10:55 PM	#4
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Now this is the sort of post i like . Imagine this with voice recognition and Nividia 3D hardware and 120hz monitor. Last edited by THE_MASK; 02-17-10 at 01:52 AM.

02-17-10, 12:23 AM	#5
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Very good Frederf The periscope screen in the most important element in the whole game, all the rest is just to get you to that point. As it now it's the single worse thing I've seen in the game even bigger than the DRM thing. Having the scope off set to the right and so small is a total immersion killer for me, you are looking at a screen and not through a periscope. What you are suggesting is a very big improvement. I've never played SH3 so my only experience is with 4 and I use the maxoptics mod so the periscope takes up about 90% of the screen, your whole focus is on what is in the scope. Your near or through the scope idea sounds great. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

02-16-10, 11:00 PM	#6
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	The thing is, I don't believe the clutter to be very "casual-friendly" either. I think the clutter is no good for anyone. A complex and, let's be frank, clinical interface is exactly the opposite to what the casual audience would want. Making Silent Hunter look like MS Office with buttons, drop downs, and such can't appeal to the predictable visceral, visual, real wants of the so called casuals. Clicking this abstract representation, clicking that 2D dial... how unemotional. Isn't it a baser, more emotional instinct to grab the real world controls as they appear before you in 3D instead of letting them be a pretty backdrop for an in-essence 2D adventure?

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