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Old 02-13-10, 08:26 AM   #23
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On the contrary, if Europe is to survive then its inevitable a federal state.
If the nations of Europe are to survive, the EU must collapse.


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You misread me. I talked about different languages on a cultural plane.
Its obvious that at the political and military levels you're going to have to standardise on 1 or 2 languages.
That would mean mandatory english, german, or french for all, which would lead to the eventual subjectation of the people's primary tongue.
Does't sit well for individual culture.


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How's that different from now ?
France and Germany are expected to continue to pay for Greece.
And they are not at all happy, since Greeks show no redemption. They will continue spending as if there were no tomorrow knowing full well they won't be kicked out of eurozone.
You provide the perfect illustration of my point.
Why should anybody be expected to carry dead-wood?
Socialism does not strengthen the weak, but weakens the strong.


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Absolutely not, what the EU needs is a political reform to make it more "democratic". The Comission must go or at least have it powers dramatically reduced and they have to be under scrutiny from the EU parliament.
The more centralized and powerful a government, the less control the people have over it ("democratic").


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Oh and by the way, if the English want to be part of the EU, they're either in or out. Having one foot in and one foot out is unacceptable. Maybe they should join their ex-colonies.
But they'll loose all the subsides they are getting from old europe.
Danmark has one foot in, and one out.
I'd like to see both out. The EU is a no-win situation.
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