Why you are going to buy SH5 anyway

[Chad]

Well I have personally met 3 of the developers, and understand the time and pain they have gone through to make this game. I want to support them, as a friend, more than an anonymous company.

Not only that, but Silent Hunter 5 has so much promise, something I wish I could of contributed to, and as such, I'll contribute my part in purchasing SH5 and maybe release a mod or two, to the few people who do go ahead and purchase SH5.

I had dialup until last year, and I would, still purchase SH5 and deal with no phone for hours on time if I had to play. There's always my cell phone

[IanC]

Originally Posted by Chad

I had dialup until last year, and I would, still purchase SH5 and deal with no phone for hours on time if I had to play. There's always my cell phone

No SH5 for dialup.

[Turbografx]

@Vanagen:

You assume this is a need, it is not. It is a want, a hobby. A disappointing loss but one I can easily live without.

[JU_88]

Well for me, You're preaching to the converted
I was going to buy SHV from the moment I knew it existed.
and nothing changed there either.

[HundertzehnGustav]

People tend to bitch and indeed give in eventually, even if they have a choice.

i dont give in....
what i want, is an offline game, what ever the cost. even an extra 10 bucks.

i never said i wasnt interested or would not get SHV. in fact i am VERY interested.

Offline. Off the chain. Off the Hook. Free.

[Vanagen]

Well, take a pledge, then. On your honour. That you won't buy this game unless they remove all DRM.

Or maybe you prefer that they remove the online requirement and add StarForce?

Either way, I'll buy the game. Even with both forms of DRM. Even if they force me to play it naked with a carrot shoved up my, uh, ear. (I was going to do that anyway)



The thing is, in two months time, when everyone is playing the game and the forums here are full of people talking about their actual experiences in-game, good or bad, will you simply sit by and say: no, I'm still not buying it out of principle?

If so, as I've said three times before already, I'll take a few moments time to applaud you and tip my hat at you, then return to my boat and taste the soup.

[MercurySeven]

Maybe there should be a thread for this. Every week the hardliners write a short "Yupp, no purchase so far" and we can monitor how well the thing holds out. Sort of like stop smoking together.

As for me: Easy to make that pledge. With current info on DRM SH5 simply wont work on my PC so buying it would be similar to taking 50 bucks out of my bank account and burning it just for the fun of it.

But I'll closely monitor the whole thing. Hopefully a few months after release the whole Online-At-All-Times thing will be dealt with in a patch (which at the same time removes some bugs that have bitten everybodys ass so far) and then I'll happily buy.

Doing so will then of course not send a signal that this sort of DRM is evil per se to UBI, but hopefully it will contribute to UBI releasing similar patches for their other future games in a similar manner. As long as a few months down the road such ludicrous obligations get patched out in the games I am grown up enough to just sit back, read a book and wait for the "second release".

[Bubblehead1980]

I believe the autor of this post underestimates the anger over the DRM fiasco.Comparingh someone who enjoys the sim to a drug addict is not exactly accurate.

I along with many others have a real life, but due to my love of history and all, I enjoy SH because its not a scripted FPS, actually the only game I reguarly play and lately have not had the time to play as much as I would like.Sure, there are some gamers who are "addicted" but does not mean most just can not help themselves.I predict most people who say they will not buy this while it has DRM, will stick to their word.
This is about freedom to buy the product we want and be able to use it when we want, not depend on UBI servers or an internet connection to play a single player game.

As far as the change thing, I am so sick of hearing about change blah blah, change is not always a good thing.When something is not really messed up, it does not need change.The way a consumer is able to purchase a game, install it and play at will, nothing wrong there.The piracy argument is just a cop out from the gaming industry for more control of the product they produce but that we ultimately bu, thus it should be the consumers choice how, when he plays it and what he does with said product when does not use it any longer.I for one prob play SH 4 with the mods for years to come.

That being said, I prefer fleetboats but was looking forward to SH 5 so could support the franchise, check out the steps theyve made, hope and wait for SH 6 in the PTO again with great features from SH 5 like a fully modeled submarine. Play it now and then for a change.As long as DRM is present in SH 5, I will not purchase this game and it will not kill me.SH 4 with TMO and RSRD is tops right now as far as I am concerned.

[Mud]

I for one have a tight budged, wife, kids, house etc.
SH5 for me means I have to invest in a new PC, I have still my 5 year old P4.
The games I play are mostly older ones from the budged box which I still enjoy.
So it cost me about 800 euros to play SH5, the way SH5 is going I'm gonna pass on that one and hold the money in my pocket.
As I've read in an other thread then I'm probably not a true subsimmer, well so be it.

Mud

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Vanagen

I'm still not buying it out of principle?

The moment i can go, buy the package (game, license, data...) and play it without Ubisoft requiring me to be hooked up to the net, i will.

Its not going to take long. Not at all - i hope.

Principles are stronger than my addiction.

*sits at 220meters, listening to depth charges all around*

[Iron Budokan]

I'll buy the game if, and only if, Neal gives it a positive review and the forum members here give it a thumbs up after weeks of play testing and we learn, yes, Virginia, some of these ridiculous game-play limitations can be modded out. AND my concerns about the DRM are proven to be completely unwarranted.

Then. And only then, will I buy this game.

Why? Simple. I trust them a lot more than I do someone preaching at me as to why I'll "buy the game" regardless of my principles.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Vanagen

Well, take a pledge, then. On your honour. That you won't buy this game unless they remove all DRM.

In my case it's not a matter of principle, though I may drag that out too. No, for me it's a matter of fact: I don't have an internet connection, so for me to buy a game I cannot possibly play would be stupid. I said I would buy it in spite of the other percieved flaws, but for me it has to be that way. If they make it so I can't play it, Why bother?

or maybe you prefer that they remove the online requirement and add StarForce?

Starforce has not affected my computer one bit. That said, I now have the newer version of SH3 without it. But If they remove the "online only" requirement, sure I'll buy it.

The thing is, in two months time, when everyone is playing the game and the forums here are full of people talking about their actual experiences in-game, good or bad, will you simply sit by and say: no, I'm still not buying it out of principle?

Yes, I'll sit by, but I'll cry and say "Why me?" As I said, for me it's not the principle but the necessity.