All those not buying SH5 please move along.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by trenken

There are millions of people that love records and own record players, why cant I find any in stores anymore?

And the maker of Segway scooters said they would revolutionize the world. Until he got bitchslapped by the voice of the consumer who said "nuh-uh!" See, technology and new stuff for technology and new stuff's sake is not good if there's no DEMAND for it.

And in your example - the overwhelming majority of consumers preferred the benefits conveyed by CDs and tapes. They voted with their wallets and said "THIS IS WHAT WE WANT" and the music industry filled the demand by producing tapes and CDs. You can't find records because the consumer demand is not there for them. The record industry didn't all of a sudden one day say "Well we're going to make CDs now, screw you guys, love it or leave it, suckers." The market demanded it.

You don't seem to get it. Consumer demand is what forces a company's hand, not the whims and dictates of upper management (well, ideally). They respond to what the consumer wants. If the consumer decides that always connected DRM is a bad thing and rejects it by not buying the product, which a cursory glance at the forums here will tell you is the case, then the company will respond to the consumer if they want to stay in business.

For an example of this played out in real life, look no further than the headlines:

It's been 18 months since O'Reilly, the world's largest publisher of tech books, stopped using DRM on its ebooks. In the intervening time, O'Reilly's ebook sales have increased by 104 percent.

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/22...ops-ebook.html

The MARKET dictates what new technology will be, not the producers. And in this case, you're witnessing the market reject the invasive DRM scheme that Ubi has planned.

[cherbert]

Well I for one am getting sick of this place now. If Neil wants to continue to allow this nonsense them I'm gone. I strongly believe he is making a big mistake allowing this to happen in this forum.

Create a DRM discussion forum or restrict discussions to a single topic for god sake!

I really doubt for one second UBI come here - and I really don't think they give a flying *** what you all think. They probably have invested millions in this new technology and as others have said - its the future and there is no going back.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by cherbert

Well I for one am getting sick of this place now. If Neil wants to continue to allow this nonsense them I'm gone. I strongly believe he is making a big mistake allowing this to happen in this forum.

Create a DRM discussion forum or restrict discussions to a single topic for god sake!

I really doubt for one second UBI come here - and I really don't think they give a flying *** what you all think. They probably have invested millions in this new technology and as others have said - its the future and there is no going back.

You've made 64 posts here in the 5 years you've been a member. Feel free to join the Ubi Forum. You won't be missed.

[cherbert]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

You've made 64 posts here in the 5 years you've been a member. Feel free to join the Ubi Forum. You won't be missed.

What f**ing relevance is that? I have a life and you don't maybe?

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by cherbert

What f**ing relevance is that? I have a life and you don't maybe?

The door is that way.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

You've made 64 posts here in the 5 years you've been a member. Feel free to join the Ubi Forum. You won't be missed.

Be nice

[IanC]

Originally Posted by cherbert

- its the future and there is no going back.

hogwash

[Rip]

Originally Posted by cherbert

Well I for one am getting sick of this place now. If Neil wants to continue to allow this nonsense them I'm gone. I strongly believe he is making a big mistake allowing this to happen in this forum.

Create a DRM discussion forum or restrict discussions to a single topic for god sake!

I really doubt for one second UBI come here - and I really don't think they give a flying *** what you all think. They probably have invested millions in this new technology and as others have said - its the future and there is no going back.

We will miss your 64 posts. Not that I recall ever reading one.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by cherbert

Well I for one am getting sick of this place now. If Neil wants to continue to allow this nonsense them I'm gone. I strongly believe he is making a big mistake allowing this to happen in this forum.

Seeya.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

The MARKET dictates what new technology will be, not the producers. And in this case, you're witnessing the market reject the invasive DRM scheme that Ubi has planned.

All I'm witnessing is a handful of gripes (some of which are justified) and threats (which may or may not be carried out). When the game is released, then we'll see what the market says.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

All I'm witnessing is a handful of gripes (some of which are justified) and threats (which may or may not be carried out). When the game is released, then we'll see what the market says.

Very very true. I'm basing that statement purely off of the "will you buy SH5?" poll. Unscientific, sure, but it's all I have. I wonder how many people will actually stick to their decision. Especially if the game is better than expected.

[guynoir]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I wonder how many people will actually stick to their decision. Especially if the game is better than expected.

You know... I had the chance to test that theory out when Blackshark came out. So far I haven't bought it either even though I was just as excited about it as I was for SHV, so I'll probably stick to my guns this time around too.

I bet a good chunk of others will too...