The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[ironkross]

Wow, so now we're at the point where we can look back at Starforce as "the good old days"! ?

"Players will be required to login to their Ubi.com account to authenticate each and every time they wish to play--and there will be no support at all for offline play."
I'm connected 24/7 but I'm not sure about 24/365. On those rare occasions when I'm disconnected from the internet, that is when I'm glad to have a pc game to play.

"What they're trying to do is stop people from going to GameStop to buy $50 games for $35, none of which goes into the publishers' pockets. If DRM permits only a few installs, that minimizes the number of times a game can be resold."
I almost never sell my old games. SHII sits up on the shelf even though I never play it.

"One very interesting benefit of this new account management system is how it handles save games. Your saves will be stored remotely on Ubi servers, allowing access to your game saves on any machine."
The game saves being stored online worry me the most. Conceivably this could wipe out hours of play for nothing.
So on the first two points theoretically I should have no problem, the third point, possibly more likely, so I think "OK, I'll try this game and if I'm not satisfied with online DRM, I've learned a lesson and won't buy another like it."
Then again, and just on principle, I think I may not buy SHV at all. If enough people don't buy it, Ubisoft will get the message; but I don't believe I would never regret not buying it either.

[bigboywooly]

The ony real loser at the moment will be subsim as no one will be buying thru Amazon and thats a shame - if all the cancelled pre orders are anything to go by, mine included

[pythos]

You may have torpedoed any chance of my buying the game.

I do not like the idea of someone else's computer drawing information from my computer. I barely like putting information over the net for registering with forums and chat sites.

I would much rather need the disk in the drive, than have this near Big Brother stuff.

I understand the security thing, but this is going too far.

Then again, perhaps I can view it like World of War craft, but that would require real time play....which with a subsim would be horrible.

[simsurfer]

Wow, what a shame to such a promising title, if this DRM is in fact going to be how one plays the game, then I'm out.

I can live with 1/2 a war, I can live with just one boat but them seeing whats on my pc & the fact that i have to connect to there's, forget this nonsense.

I will reinstall SHIII with Pleasure!

[JSLTIGER]

I won't buy the game with this protection scheme in place. I have no problems with DRM like Steam. That seems fair to me, and to be honest, I like having the games linked to an account and knowing that I can redownload and install them as many times as I please, thank you very much.

But, as others have said, I don't like the idea of not being able to access my games when the internet has gone down because my ISP sucks or because Ubisoft pulls the plug on the servers. With all due respect to Ubi, they're a good publishing warehouse, but from my perspective they don't have the best track record in supporting their games...Far Cry 2, for instance still has plenty of bugs in it that have not been (and do not appear to be in the process of being) fixed. I will not buy a product that I may not be able to play in a few years because Ubi has pulled the servers for it. This kind of thing and pay-by-the-month games like WoW drive me insane. I will not purchase them. I simply refuse. No way, no how, no thank you Ubisoft.

[simsurfer]

I wonder how many people have canceled there pre-orders? Nice going Ubi$0ft

[Reece]

Just imagine if the GWX team worked on GWX5, this can take a few years, you get everything spot on then UBI shuts down support for the game! Throw the disc in the bin!! everything was for nothing!! I can't get over how nasty they are!!

[Tim D]

This is really sad news, but I really learned my lesson with SHIII and Starforce (had to get a new computer). Thank goodness Ubi was able to make a version that did not include that software anymore. Hopefully they will get this worked out, it just might take some time (it took a while with Starforce)

[Hornet]

Well, I had issues with Ubi for sometime now over some aspects of SH3. You can't play human dd's in multiplayer and things like that. I felt that was the only thing missing from a perfect game....bring back the SH2/DC days...I LOVED it....which would have made SH3 even more awesome.

But I was actually looking forward to SH5 coming out because I thought UBI would actually listen to the modders, players and mission designers and give them what they wanted....BUT NOOOOOO, looks like they messed this up too...I've always questioned who was running the show over there.

If all of this IS true, then that might add about 5 years to SH3....LOL


Guys: if I ever win the lottery and have millions of dollars...I promise you this....We will design a game based on SH3 campaign, multiplayer and have everything in it we want.... Even If I have to hire the best people in the world to make it happen and sale it for a loss to get what we want. At that point I would be rich so what would I care???...Anyone have any lucky numbers I can play? Or just know a rich uncle?

Hornet

[Lanzfeld]

Originally Posted by Hornet

Guys: if I ever win the lottery and have millions of dollars...I promise you this....We will design a game based on SH3 campaign, multiplayer and have everything in it we want.... Even If I have to hire the best people in the world to make it happen and sale it for a loss to get what we want. At that point I would be rich so what would I care???...Anyone have any lucky numbers I can play? Or just know a rich uncle?

Hornet

I have had this dream myself. LOL.

But sadly it seems this will be the only way we will ever get a good AOD style sim again.

[Letum]

Don't forget danger deep.

[Tweety]

Originally Posted by simsurfer

I wonder how many people have canceled there pre-orders? Nice going Ubi$0ft

I didn't order SH5. I wanted to wait and see what happened after it was released. Now that DRM is involved. I will not order at all. I like to play single player games without having the internet running in the background. I have played a lot of games in the past 20 years that didn't require internet to play. I will continue to play and have fun without the internet.

Sh3 is a good game that has a lot of immersion, where I can have a lot of fun playing.

It isn't a good thing for Subsim to lose out on the revenue they would receive with the purchase of SH5. So I will continue to support Subsim with donations and other games I can order that doesn't involve the internet to play.

Tweety

[Steeltrap]

This is what I feared when I started a thread about the question of copy protection.

Steam activation then play online is OK.

Constant connection to yet another game server, requiring a separate account? No thanks.

Yet another password/account? No thanks.

I do not run my connection all the time, although I have ADSL2+. A connection = risk, no matter how low that risk may be. I login for specific reasons, otherwise remain disconnected.

At least I won't have to worry about what quality this game will be. Shame as I've bought every single title (except the SH4 expansion), including the original Silent Service.

Cheers

[THE_MASK]

I wont be buying SH5 after reading this thread .

[HMS Astute]

Suicidal move by Ubi.

My internet connection is often pretty temperamental, periodic cut outs and the like, so I'd regularly be unable to play the game