Memo to Ubisoft

[Dowly]

What if our fears are found to be true and the game will be crap?

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Dowly

What if our fears are found to be true and the game will be crap?

Then at least people would know for sure. Right now, all we are getting is negative frustration based on very little hard information regarding the game. Even something as simple as dynamic shadows in the game could be answered once and for all.

I'll bet you that there are some really nice features in the game that we are totally unaware of.

We are stuck with the VII subs and a 1943 finish....for now, but there may be some really nice gems that we are unaware of.

[Kapitanleutnant]

Dear Ubisoft,

Up your bum.

I remain yours everlastingly
Mr. Sir. Kapitanleutnant Esq. (est.1984)

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant

Dear Ubisoft,

Up your bum.

I remain yours everlastingly
Mr. Sir. Kapitanleutnant Esq. (est.1984)

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant

Dear Ubisoft,

Up your bum.

I remain yours everlastingly
Mr. Sir. Kapitanleutnant Esq. (est.1984)

OH MY GOD!!!!!

[FIREWALL]

Another good thread that dissolved to sh!ts and giggles.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Just STFU and wait til its on your HDD!

Damn! the Stuff is Frozen and in Beta! the Marketing guys are ready to let it hiot the shelves and the presses are ready to get the empty CDs.

Other games experience has shown me that the Game is ready now. Nobody will alter any more code, and nobody will get an alpha or beta build for testing.

IT IS OVER!

Now is the hole between developping and Selling in the shops. So please stop bitching and whining, for chrissakes.

[TDK1044]

'And some fell on stony ground'........

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

Just STFU and wait til its on your HDD!

Damn! the Stuff is Frozen and in Beta! the Marketing guys are ready to let it hiot the shelves and the presses are ready to get the empty CDs.

Other games experience has shown me that the Game is ready now. Nobody will alter any more code, and nobody will get an alpha or beta build for testing.

IT IS OVER!

Now is the hole between developping and Selling in the shops. So please stop bitching and whining, for chrissakes.

Do's Neal know you've taken over ownership of HIS website and are telling everyone what to think or say ?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Then at least people would know for sure. Right now, all we are getting is negative frustration based on very little hard information regarding the game. Even something as simple as dynamic shadows in the game could be answered once and for all.

I'll bet you that there are some really nice features in the game that we are totally unaware of.

We are stuck with the VII subs and a 1943 finish....for now, but there may be some really nice gems that we are unaware of.

Well, all game devs tend to keep their mouth shut about their game until it's released. It's part of the marketing strategy, if you dont tell everything about the game, the player must buy the game to find out what it's about. Atleast, I think that's the point of this.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Well, all game devs tend to keep their mouth shut about their game until it's released. It's part of the marketing strategy, if you dont tell everything about the game, the player must buy the game to find out what it's about. Atleast, I think that's the point of this.

You are absolutely right. And I think that for most people, the allure of the game will be too much and they will buy it knowing that it can be modded. But a review from Neal would certainly help the frustration and anger element currently present.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

the allure of the game will be too much and they will buy it knowing that it can be modded

Regardless of how good or bad the game may be, the difference has always been this, moddability. Not just that folks can tailor the game to their liking, but the fact that it can be modded period to the level it has to this point.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

Regardless of how good or bad the game may be, the difference has always been this, moddability. Not just that folks can tailor the game to their liking, but the fact that it can be modded period to the level it has to this point.

Agree totally, Kev, and a review from Neal could also answer things like AA, AF, Dynamic Shadows, FPS on a mid range rig, how good does the water look? Does the sub feel like it's on rails? How much fun is the first person mode? What options can be enabled/disabled in the game? How does the AI feel?

None of the answers to these issues will prevent sales here, other than a very small percentage who have already decided not to buy it, but a good review would establish a 'glass half full' feeling in the community in my view.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

None of the answers to these issues will prevent sales here, other than a very small percentage who have already decided not to buy it, but a good review would establish a 'glass half full' feeling in the community in my view.

Plus SUBSIM has done a lot for the series over the years. The majority of it constructive
( threads, forums and posts )

[urfisch]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Agree totally, Kev, and a review from Neal could also answer things like AA, AF, Dynamic Shadows, FPS on a mid range rig, how good does the water look? Does the sub feel like it's on rails? How much fun is the first person mode? What options can be enabled/disabled in the game? How does the AI feel?

None of the answers to these issues will prevent sales here, other than a very small percentage who have already decided not to buy it, but a good review would establish a 'glass half full' feeling in the community in my view.

remind the new fact, stated last autumn about the mysterious "COMMUNITY DEVELOPER" that was to come? seems as if the idea wasnt worked out. it simply didnt happened, that the community was involved at all. so we wont will get any specials, except for an interview, or a few screens. you are not alone, when asking for reasons...

this leads me to the opinion, to face the fact: IT IS NOT WISHED TO GET US INVOLVED. we where not the main target group, compared to the release of sh3 (or sh4). things have changed.

they knew, a lot of critism was to come, if we would have been involved from the beginning. we have our wishes, that where washed out since years of playing subsims. a big amount of experience grew. most players wouldnt have signed the concept of this game, as it is now.

and they simply do not wanted to create such a storm of bad publicity, even before the game is being developed. the answers are always simple, but frustrating. money makes games, not passion.


sad, but true.