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Old 01-10-10, 01:11 PM   #1
Tomi_099
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That's a low blow Good catch



Well I must disagree with that. This is a matter I have been giving a lot of thought, and in the end I prefer to have a smaller viewhole. Why? Because you completely lose the sense of proportions if you make a full-screen periscope view. In any game that works in a 3D environment, the chief difficulty for both inmersion and a good gameplay is allowing the player to really "feel" himself in the 3D world. Full screen periscope view actually kill that feeling completely, because the player has a better view through them than what he has without them. I.e. the opposite of what any real life Kaleun would want. A real Kaleun would ALWAYS prefer a surface attack because his boat is more maneuverable, but also because the awareness of the tactical situation is hugely better than when doing quick looks through a small periscope. Yes Steve, you can only see the eyepiece FOV when you look through it, but at the same time you are still feeling your body and your proportions, as well as the comparison with your true human FOV of 180º (Albeit with a focused 90º in the centre). The periscopes in both german and US Navy had a zoom of 1,5x for a good reason: This is the size that has the observer feel better that the observed object ash the same size as if he was looking at it without periscope. Periscopes tend to make objects smaller. In fact, any reduction of your natural FOV does the same, just pick any tube and look through it at an object. It seems smaller, because you lose the sense of proportion. But in the game we see suddenly a hugely big ship when compared to what we would see from the bridge, and lose the situational awareness. The effect on the game of this huge and disproportionated periscope is that we find ourselves time and time again off the target track in SH3/4 when doing submerged attacks because we have completely lost the sense of proportions, of the 3D environment. When you are surfaced and can look around with a bigger FOV you rarely do such faulty maneuvers. It's the huge periscope look what makes you do them. This is the reason why in my incoming GUI mod I have tweaked the FOV to have the game display the same proportions in all views, and trust me, my maneuvering has improved a 100% with that.




I believe that's how it will work with SH5

In SH4 the trend with draggable objects/icons already started, it is logic that it is now taken a step further.
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Old 01-08-10, 02:53 PM   #2
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i think they should double the size of the crewmembers icon and put it dead center right in the crosshairs, who wants to see the periscope views on the periscope views screen anyway

and who let the kids loose with crayons on that map view? they have so many colors you cant even see anything, new and improved isnt always better
Well I have to agree, left side of project screen is too saturated with different object, simply distracting the view trough periscope.

I am just trying to re-organize screen with given objects so that feeling of view trough periscope would be "dominant feeling".
Sailor picture within periscope is "bitter joke"... cant beleive such a distruction of simulation.

Let's just hope that KptLehman and Onelifecrisis are hanging around with an eye locked on this "periscope gipsy bag"...
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