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Old 12-29-09, 03:23 PM   #1
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Ouch......thanks for the correction Hunter. I could have sworn I saw those were PPSh subbies but I took a closer look at some scenes from the second disk and you're right. I didn't even know there was a Suomi design of similar appearence. My bad.

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Cant say I have ever really looked that hard, eventho I've seen the movie like 50 times. Pe2?
Nope. I thought that at first, too, but the Pe-2 has a split tail design.
The bombers are actually Tupolev SB-2s, of which the Finns captured 8 during the war. My understanding is that several remain functional, and one of them is the late model with inline engines, and that one was used with two others during the making of the film.

The tanks used were indeed T-26s, but they also used BT-7 fast tanks. Those are the tanks with large, offset cylindrical turrets and the Christie suspension system.
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Thanks for the movie list, Dowly. I'll try to add a few of those to my collection when I get a chance. Hopefully they'll be half as rewarding as "Winter War" was. I've often neglected the Finnish theatre of operations in my studies of WW2, but that movie encouraged me to do some more research about it. I was aware that the Soviets invaded Finland in November of 39' and that the Finns were massively outnumbered but I had no idea how badly. The Soviets had an average of a three-to-one advantage in infantry, a ten-to-one advantage in aircraft, and a twenty-to-one advantage in tanks. Despite all that, the Soviets suffered around 600,000 casualties in just a few months. That says volumes about the courage and quality of the Finnish soldiers.
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Old 12-29-09, 09:08 PM   #2
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Thanks for the movie list, Dowly. I'll try to add a few of those to my collection when I get a chance. Hopefully they'll be half as rewarding as "Winter War" was. I've often neglected the Finnish theatre of operations in my studies of WW2, but that movie encouraged me to do some more research about it. I was aware that the Soviets invaded Finland in November of 39' and that the Finns were massively outnumbered but I had no idea how badly. The Soviets had an average of a three-to-one advantage in infantry, a ten-to-one advantage in aircraft, and a twenty-to-one advantage in tanks. Despite all that, the Soviets suffered around 600,000 casualties in just a few months. That says volumes about the courage and quality of the Finnish soldiers.
The 600k casualty rate for the Russians is false, 150k to 200k is more accurate, no one really knows. Get the book 'Winter War' if you have a chance, while the movie is pretty faithful to it, there's still alot more in the book than what you can see in the movie. Also, there's an extended version of the movie with some extra scenes added, dont know if it ever was released on DVD as it was a mini-series version like the uncut original version of Das Boot.
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