Human hair usd on u-boats

[Gabucino]

Okay IMHO let's close this OT thread with the actual facts.

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Except for the slight problem that the Nazi's were stockpiling the stuff in the camps. I mean why on earth would they keep the hair if it was infected?

I can see only one rational explanation: they didn't.

Take Treblinka, which was utterly destroyed and dismantled, its existence is based on contradicting survivor reports (like the only water well in the middle of the alleged exterminational area - Arad: Op.Reinhard camps; page 39).

And see the "hairy" Auschwitz, where "29 of the 35 storerooms have been burned down. In six of the remaining ones, the liberators found the camp's legacy: 368,820 men's suits, 836,255 women's coats and dresses, 5,525 pairs of women's shoes, 13,964 carpets... ... and in the tannery the Soviet investigation commission found seven tons of hair.

Here's what it looks like (from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum):



In this perfectly aligned scene of actors, I mean soldiers, all standing in the right spot to make everything visible, this guy even goes over the top and shows the camera (camera!) where hair can be usually found on the humans, because someone may not know:



Himmler decides to dismantle the installations on 1944 November 25 (Raul Hillberg: Destr. of European Jews, page 980), and the processes begin. No hurry there, because the camp is still allegedly operational in January 17 when soviet artillery was already audible. So they didn't just forget the evidence during a 'quick evacuation'.

The germans went to great lengths to totally destroy Treblinka, not even use the term "Vergasungskeller" in written text anywhere, but accidently left several tons of highly flammable clothes and hair completely intact ... Or so the famous soviet inspectors say, long time known for their sense of absolute truth, professional courtesy, and the complete lack of idealistic and political influence.

Not that I don't believe in the HoCa, I do. I really do. I said I do! ... DON'T TAZE ME BRO'!!! *bzzt*

[IanC]

Suuure Gabucino... it's all just one big lie to make the Nazis look bad.
Anyways why is this thread even in the SHIII game forum?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Gabucino

Not that I don't believe in the HoCa, I do. I really do. I said I do! ... DON'T TAZE ME BRO'!!! *bzzt*

What a disgusting attitude and belief.

[KL-alfman]

@ gabucino:
no need for believing, there is evidence enough.

I'd rather sail bare-footed than in socks made of human hair ......
can't imagine the u-boatmen were attracted to this idea either.

[Gabucino]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

What a disgusting attitude and belief.

There is no need for you to get personal, don't do that.

[Schöneboom]

For crying out loud, isn't this topic dead yet?! Let me finish it off, then. It's Christmas Eve!

Anyone who knows how socks are manufactured could have debunked this story in seconds. One of my ex-girlfriends was into knitting, so I learned a few things from her.

1) Socks -- the kind for real-world use by modern people, are not made from felt, they are knitted from yarn.
2) Yarn can be spun from many sorts of fibers, but some work better than others. My GF sometimes used her dog's hair (it had a wooly texture). Human hair is particularly hard to work with because it's slippery and, in bulk, lacks uniformity of length & texture. If it were practical to use, hairdressers everywhere would be selling the cuttings from their floors.
3) Any industry using vast amounts of human hair to make yarn would not be a secret for long. And the Final Solution was meant to be kept low-profile.
4) A clothing shortage can be remedied in other ways, for ex., get crewmen to bring their own socks from home. (In fact U-boat men did wear civvies on board.) In real desperation, confiscate ready-made socks from prisoners or civilians in occupied countries. Wash thoroughly and re-use.

It stands to reason that someone would have preserved physical evidence, if any existed. Extraordinary claims such as this require extraordinary evidence. From what I can tell, there is more compelling evidence for the existence of UFOs than for human-hair socks! Are we done yet?

Happy Christmas,
Wayne

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Gabucino

There is no need for you to get personal, don't do that.

Get over it.

[NeonSamurai]

SS-Wirtschaftsverwaltungshauptamt

Oranienburg,
August 6. 1942

Amtsgruppe D - Concentration Camps
D II 288 Ma./Ha. Tgb. 112 geh.

SECRET!
Copy 13

Re: Use of hair cuttings
To the Commandants of the Concentration Camps Arb., Au., Bu., Da., Flo., Gr.Ro., Lu., Maut/Gu., Na., Nie., Neu., Rav., Sahs., Stutth., Mor., SS SL Hinzert.
SS Obergruppen fuhrer Pohl, Chief of the SS Wirtschafts-Verwaltungshauptamt has ordered that the hair of concentration camp prisoners is to be put to use. Hair is to be made into industrial felt or spun into yarn. Woman's hair is to be used in the manufacture of hair-yarn socks for 'U'-boat crews and hair-felt foot-wear for the Reichs-railway.
It is therefore ordered that the hair of female prisoners be disinfected and stored. Men's hair can only be put to use if it is longer than 20 mm. SS Obergruppen fuhrer Pohl therefore agrees for an intial trial period to the growing of the prisoners hair to a length of 20 mm before it is cut. Long hair could facillitate escape and to avoid this the camp commandants may have a middle parting shaved in the prisoners' hair as a distinguishing mark, if they think it is necessary.
It is planned to planned to set up a hair processing workshop in one of the concentration camps. Further details as to the delivery of the accumulated hair will follow.
The total monthly amount of male and female hair is to be reported to this office on the 5th of every month beginning from September 5, 1942.

signed: Glucks
SS-Brigadefuhrer und
Generalmajor der Waffen-SS

This is the origin of the idea. Contrary to what was said, you can in fact knit with human hair and make yarn out of it (here is an example), particularly if it is mixed with wool or other material. Human hair can also be made into felt just as easily. There is in fact still market to this day for human hair that is used in weaving and other things.

Gabucino, I'm not even going to bother debunking you, not that it wouldn't be very hard to, as your last post and that racist little anti-Semitic comic you posted earlier make it very apparent that it would be an utter waste of my time.

[Gabucino]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Gabucino, I'm not even going to bother debunking you, not that it wouldn't be very hard to

as your last post and that racist little anti-Semitic comic you posted earlier make it very apparent that it would be an utter waste of my time.

It could hardly be called antisemitic, as it had no problems with arabs, ethiopeans, assyrians, or other semitic people.

[Hitman]

Hummmm I think I'm closing this thread before someone manages to get an infraction on Xmas day It is anyway not an appropiate subject of discussion for this forum, nor for this part of the year, don't you guys think so?