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Old 12-22-09, 10:32 AM   #1
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You're telling a story without saying where did it supposedly happen, when did it supposedly happen and what are your sources???

BTW an atomic bomb can be seen several hundred kilometers away, if it really happen, there should have some witnesses?

Edit: @Raptor we almost have though the same at almost the same time...
150km South East of Kursk, 2 days before the Battle of Kursk.
Here are a few links. They dont mentrion the bombing of Kursk itself though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlers_Bombe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm

And here's a YouTube Video that has some pictures of the epicenter.


The only part im sure that its missunderstood its the V2/A-something, which was infact a simple V2 with a range extention (the A-something lower part of the rocket which was similar to what Space Busses use today.)

Nazi Germany evolved as none else did back then. When they lost the war, many patterns and schematics that were captured were still advanced compared to what the allies had. A reason to seize them.
And then, there's the cold war. A reason to hide them.
In a race for power between the Soviet Union and USA, its vital to keep all you can classified. Even things that they discovered years ago.
If the base is provided and you have the knowledge to use it, you're bound to discover whatever you want.

I dont know what you think, but i dont think that the scientists all over the world have discovered so few in so many years with so much knowledge provided. I think they're just classified.
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Old 12-22-09, 12:33 PM   #2
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150km South East of Kursk, 2 days before the Battle of Kursk.
Here are a few links. They dont mentrion the bombing of Kursk itself though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlers_Bombe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm

And here's a YouTube Video that has some pictures of the epicenter.


The only part im sure that its missunderstood its the V2/A-something, which was infact a simple V2 with a range extention (the A-something lower part of the rocket which was similar to what Space Busses use today.)

Nazi Germany evolved as none else did back then. When they lost the war, many patterns and schematics that were captured were still advanced compared to what the allies had. A reason to seize them.
And then, there's the cold war. A reason to hide them.
In a race for power between the Soviet Union and USA, its vital to keep all you can classified. Even things that they discovered years ago.
If the base is provided and you have the knowledge to use it, you're bound to discover whatever you want.

I dont know what you think, but i dont think that the scientists all over the world have discovered so few in so many years with so much knowledge provided. I think they're just classified.
That book supposedly implies that the bomb was tested in 1944-1945, but the Battle of Kursk was a year earlier, thus contradicting your claims.

The photo of this supposed Kursk explosion is not very convincing, it in fact looks very much like any other similar battlefield after a flash barrage. Many photos of the Western Front in World War I give a similar impression.

I'd still like to see a source for the supposed nuking at Kursk.
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Old 12-22-09, 05:12 PM   #3
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http://www.greyfalcon.us/The%20Battle%20Of%20Kursk.htm

Plus, the book Reich of the Black Sun is a good book around the subject.
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Hmm. and if the germans had a nuke. (refering to vid.) Why didnt they use it? could have really worked wounders on the eastern front, and knocked the russians around badly...
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Wow. An entire infantry regiment wiped out to the last man with nukes and none of the millions of other German and Russian soldiers and airmen crowded in the Kursk salient bothers to look up and notice the resulting blinding fireball or write down an account in a unit or field dairy or take a picture of the mushroom cloud. Rather odd considering all the eyewitness accounts from miles around of the secret US "Trinity" a-bomb test in a then sparsely populated section of New Mexico. I guess the Germans were more obsessed with getting the Panther tank over it's teething problems at Kursk than with their rather successful nuclear weapon debut.
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Wow. An entire infantry regiment wiped out to the last man with nukes and none of the millions of other German and Russian soldiers and airmen crowded in the Kursk salient bothers to look up and notice the resulting blinding fireball or write down an account in a unit or field dairy or take a picture of the mushroom cloud. Rather odd considering all the eyewitness accounts from miles around of the secret US "Trinity" a-bomb test in a then sparsely populated section of New Mexico. I guess the Germans were more obsessed with getting the Panther tank over it's teething problems at Kursk than with their rather successful nuclear weapon debut.
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150km South East of Kursk, 2 days before the Battle of Kursk.
Here are a few links. They dont mentrion the bombing of Kursk itself though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlers_Bombe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm

And here's a YouTube Video that has some pictures of the epicenter.


The only part im sure that its missunderstood its the V2/A-something, which was infact a simple V2 with a range extention (the A-something lower part of the rocket which was similar to what Space Busses use today.)

Nazi Germany evolved as none else did back then. When they lost the war, many patterns and schematics that were captured were still advanced compared to what the allies had. A reason to seize them.
And then, there's the cold war. A reason to hide them.
In a race for power between the Soviet Union and USA, its vital to keep all you can classified. Even things that they discovered years ago.
If the base is provided and you have the knowledge to use it, you're bound to discover whatever you want.

I dont know what you think, but i dont think that the scientists all over the world have discovered so few in so many years with so much knowledge provided. I think they're just classified.
Right, well any of that doesnt answer my questions I made. Why didnt the soviets talk about it during and/or after the war? Surely a whole regiment burned with the enviroment with it was something to talk about.

Why there have been no other eyewitnesses to the Kursk bombing? German army was nearby, as was the soviet army, nobody supposedly saw nothing? Besides, both sides were surely to know about eachother so the air activity would have been tense, someone would've had to see something.
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