The missle defense issue...

[Shearwater]

Dismayed? Rather relieved, at least as far as I am concerned. The only thing it ever succeeded in was giving the Russians a pretext for rearming their own missile force.
Time to set back the doomsday clock by a few seconds.

[Hunter]

To add insult to injury Obama makes his announcement on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet Unions invasion of Poland.

I know the Polish are pissed.

I think, President Obama wishing it or not has gave a good advise to Poland to stop behaving like a prostitute offering herself to everyone who can secure her in continious russofobia. Dirty intrigues to push the havyweighters to clash each other didn't brough any good to Poland neither 70 years ago nor in our days. At last, someone who had offered herself to have sex should not claim to be a victim after being f*ed and not being paid.

Becides, Polish piss off only proves that at least in Poland they concidered the 'shild' to be aimed aginst Russia not Iran. Anyone interested to support an ally who intend to provoke world war 3 while offering itself as a valantier target for nucler strike? Don't deal with paranoics.

[Skybird]

The technical reliability was in doubt until the end anyway.

It saves money of a nation that mounts and mounts its debts, and already needs the good will of even rivalling nations in order to maintain it's economic survival.

It increases chances for improving geostrategic relations with Russia, whose good will is as important for America as is China's.

In case of Iran continuing it's missle program, Obama left open the option to pick up the missile defense again. That is not so important, since the threat to europe is from nuclear proliferation and terror bombs anyway. From an american perspective it may be seen as an encouragement to Europe to take better care of it's defensive interests itself

But it would need to pay for it with money european nations in depts and deficitary budgets again do not have. In fact the British are considering to abandon their nuclear submarines and aircraftcarriers. Well, we have gone bancrupt over too wasteful ways of living, so what do you expect? Endless business as usual...?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Hunter

I think, President Obama wishing it or not has gave a good advise to Poland to stop behaving like a prostitute offering herself to everyone who can secure her in continious russofobia. Dirty intrigues to push the havyweighters to clash each other didn't brough any good to Poland neither 70 years ago nor in our days. At last, someone who had offered herself to have sex should not claim to be a victim after being f*ed and not being paid.

Becides, Polish piss off only proves that at least in Poland they concidered the 'shild' to be aimed aginst Russia not Iran. Anyone interested to support an ally who intend to provoke world war 3 while offering itself as a valantier target for nucler strike? Don't deal with paranoics.

I must agree in principal here. So far, Polish atttitude of wanting to take revenge on Russia since it has joined NATO and the EU, has not done any good for both organisations, just earned constant poihtless and needless irritations. Occasionally Polish news editors write guest comment sin German newspapers. Just a short while ago there was another one on Obama showing less priroity interest for Poland than Bush - and the writer indeed turned out to be paranoid, and described a conspiracy of america and Russia to minimise Poland and keeping Poland from playing the dominant role in europoean poltiics that thew writer claimed as being natural for Poland.

It is a very strnage mixture of paranoia, inferiority complex and megalomania indeed. Judging by history, I used to have some sollid ammount of understanding for them, assuming that with the years it would sort itself out somewhat. But instead it seems to become worse and worse. It's fair to say that we others in europe are a little bit sick and tired of these constant irritations.

And believe me, this is NO hidden threat of an upcoming German re-invasion planned if they do not finally start to play ball. It really is nothing more than a loud depsrate sigh, and rolling eyes. It's just that many Polish seem to seriously believe indeed that the next German and Russian invasion is just ahead.

Poland, stand up, shake the dust of the past off your shoulder, and stand tall and meet eye to eye with the neighbours you now peacefully live with. Or continue to wallow in fears and echoes from the past, minimise yourself that way and get laughed about - because nothing is more hilarious than a pussy that tries to roar like a big dangerous tiger, but runs away in fear of phantom mice. Life has moved on, you know, and even your suffering was not intense enough as if it would have defined the ultimate end of history. It'S bad the old times have been there, but now they are gone, and it's been over 70 years. Soon no german will live naymore who ever has raised his hand against Poland, and soon no Polish will live asnymore who ever has suffered an evil from a German's hand. The future belongs to the living, the young - not the old and the dead. Start to live now. Stop falling for the past. We don't want to endlessly listen to your laments and conspiracy theories anymore.