Ford Taurus 2010

[CaptainHaplo]

Schroeder - not when you consider a mile is longer than the European kilometer. The combination of distance difference and "gallon size" difference make it fairly decent.

To put it in European terms - it gets 32.82 kpg city, and 48.276 on the highway/motorway.

[Schroeder]

I know Haplo and it is still terrible compared to European/Asian cars.

1 US gallon = 3.785 litres
1 (UK) mile = 1.6 km

My 17 year old car can run 100km in a city consuming 7.5 litres of gas.
That gives it a mileage of 31,3 miles/gallon in a city (if I didn't screw up the math).

On a Autobahn it consumes 6.5 litres at a speed of 140 km/h that is ca. 36.25 miles per gallon at a speed of 87 mph.

Remember that thing is 17 years old.
Sure it has a lot less power than the Taurus but on an American public road I'm just as fast as the Taurus (because of the speed limit) and have a much better gas mileage.

[XabbaRus]

Well I get 10 miles to the litre with my car and it has a 40 litre tank.

On a good long run on the motorway I can get better than that.

[AVGWarhawk]

That is about average for a V6 particularly if the curb weight is very high. This vehicle is upwards of 3500#? Or more?

Schroeder - not when you consider a mile is longer than the European kilometer. The combination of distance difference and "gallon size" difference make it fairly decent.

To put it in European terms - it gets 32.82 kpg city, and 48.276 on the highway/motorway.

The problem there is that the figures you are putting down as KPG are what people are used to getting as MPG(or better)

That is about average for a V6 particularly if the curb weight is very high. This vehicle is upwards of 3500#? Or more?

Thats a problem with the local market and local regulations, if you have a big lump of metal like that in other countries the manufacturers would ship it with a turbo diesel instead of a petrol engine.
Take Fords best selling American van and their best selling European van for examples, both can take the same loads but one gives both better performance and lower fuel consumption.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

The problem there is that the figures you are putting down as KPG are what people are used to getting as MPG(or better)


Thats a problem with the local market and local regulations, if you have a big lump of metal like that in other countries the manufacturers would ship it with a turbo diesel instead of a petrol engine.
Take Fords best selling American van and their best selling European van for examples, both can take the same loads but one gives both better performance and lower fuel consumption.

I do not believe America is really ready to accept a diesel openly at present. There are a few certainly. Mostly pick up trucks and to be honest the early attempts at American diesels for cars were not the greatest from what I recall. If it did not pull a tractor trailer the diesel was not that great utilized in a car. I remember the first Rabbit diesels by VW. Darn thing made a racket but it chugged along for hundreds of thousand of miles. Hell, the car body would rust out around the motor and that motor would keep on turning. I do think with todays tech in diesels and specifically VW's version Americans would grow to like them. The Jetta TDI is a great car. Yet we can not get the Passat TDI here in the state. Makes no sense. I do not object to diesels but for every one of my there is 20 others who do not want a diesel. They say the engine smells. So does the fuel and exhaust. The engine sounds like a sewing machine, etc. To some extend they are correct.

[XabbaRus]

Diesel engines are so much better now. Infact you can't always tell if it is a diesel or not.

My dad has a Discovery 3 with a V6 TD engine. Seriously when you rev it it sounds more like a V8 than a V6 diesel.

You Americans should give them a go. You can also get V8 diesels like in the Range Rover sport that give a good bang and no tick tick noise.

[Prof]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The Jetta TDI is a great car. Yet we can not get the Passat TDI here in the state. Makes no sense.

The problem is that the US emissions standards for NOx are difficult to achieve with a Diesel without spending a lot of money on the exhaust aftertreatment system. New technologies like SCR are helping to an extent, but it all adds cost and complexity to the vehicle.

Current European emissions standards allow higher NOx for Diesel vehicles than for gasoline vehicles, though that will change in the next few years.

[Task Force]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I do not believe America is really ready to accept a diesel openly at present. There are a few certainly. Mostly pick up trucks and to be honest the early attempts at American diesels for cars were not the greatest from what I recall. If it did not pull a tractor trailer the diesel was not that great utilized in a car. I remember the first Rabbit diesels by VW. Darn thing made a racket but it chugged along for hundreds of thousand of miles. Hell, the car body would rust out around the motor and that motor would keep on turning. I do think with todays tech in diesels and specifically VW's version Americans would grow to like them. The Jetta TDI is a great car. Yet we can not get the Passat TDI here in the state. Makes no sense. I do not object to diesels but for every one of my there is 20 others who do not want a diesel. They say the engine smells. So does the fuel and exhaust. The engine sounds like a sewing machine, etc. To some extend they are correct.

... have you looked at the prices of diesel... its higher than the supreme fuel (dont know if they have that in europe.)... lol