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Old 09-08-09, 02:14 PM   #1
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I read the speech. It was just fine IMO. Much to do about nothing over the whole thing. Life moves on.
I have to wonder is it nothing because the speech was always harmless or is it that way because they saw the way the wind was blowing and changed it to be harmless?
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Old 09-08-09, 02:17 PM   #2
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I have to wonder is it nothing because the speech was always harmless or is it that way because they saw the way the wind was blowing and changed it to be harmless?
I would bet on the first option, while he is a politician, he is not retarded.
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Old 09-08-09, 02:19 PM   #3
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I have to wonder is it nothing because the speech was always harmless or is it that way because they saw the way the wind was blowing and changed it to be harmless?
Question is, where is the original speech? What was the verbiage? I have not seen anything remotely original showing this was a smoke and mirrors speech. To me it was all made up and or blown completely out of proportion.
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Question is, where is the original speech? What was the verbiage? I have not seen anything remotely original showing this was a smoke and mirrors speech. To me it was all made up and or blown completely out of proportion.
One thing not to forget is, that this actually might be the original speech, and they waited on purpose that long to publish it to make all those that objected or questioned it, look foolish.
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One thing not to forget is, that this actually might be the original speech, and they waited on purpose that long to publish it to make all those that objected or questioned it, look foolish.

I think it was the original speech. Really, some were saying he would start with the plege of allegience to him. Come on people, get off the rock. It would take a very large set of balls to do that and then press on about healthcare to numerous school kids. Granted a lot do not trust Obama but quite a few claims about this speech boarded on insanity.
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I think quite a lot of those fears went way south of insane, rather than boarder on it.
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hmm... I guess they decided not to show it today...
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I think it was the original speech. Really, some were saying he would start with the plege of allegience to him. Come on people, get off the rock. It would take a very large set of balls to do that and then press on about healthcare to numerous school kids. Granted a lot do not trust Obama but quite a few claims about this speech boarded on insanity.
Oh, I agree with you.
Too much ruckus about it. Even my wife found the speech very good once it was released, but at the same questions why wasn't it released earlier to shoot down the objections and questions people brought up.

A card, well played I might say.

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What apparently got some parents up in arms was the lesson plan that was published by the DoE and supposed to be used together with the address.

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...to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."
drew a lot of criticism.

However, I think this particular object was changed before the adress was delivered.
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Oh, I agree with you.
Too much ruckus about it. Even my wife found the speech very good once it was released, but at the same questions why wasn't it released earlier to shoot down the objections and questions people brought up.

A card, well played I might say.
I would not say cards well played or if he was even playing cards. After all it was his vacation. He had larger fish to worry about in the form of his failing healthcare plan. Calming a few lunatics spewing their children will be forced to read Mein Kampf and wear Obama approved school uniforms was not part of Obama's vacation plan. Really, the guy has two kids of his own. He wants them taking on the responsibility of school and being a part. Much to do about nothing when it all came down to it.
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I don't understand the big issue here? What did he say that pissed so many people?
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Calming a few lunatics spewing their children will be forced to read Mein Kampf and wear Obama approved school uniforms was not part of Obama's vacation plan.
Call me crazy, but I always viewed the suspiciousness of the American people towards state authority or authority in general as a virtue, not as lunatic. Better to err on the side of distrust than indoctrination.
And thinking a politician might abuse methods of communication to further his agenda is a hell of a lot more plausible than thinking one might concert a terrorist attack on his own soil towards the same goal, for that matter.
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