What is it with Gays?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

So GR, does that mean you're not going to see Bruno with me?

well i loved Borat... but i dont know about this Bruno guy... my friends went while i had to work - they all said it was funny but that it probably wouldn't be something GR would sit through

Since we are on the road to hijacking ill assist...

seen GI Joe?

i have heard bad things

[LobsterBoy]

What's with the needless stereotyping?

Grouping people is useless. If they have similarities they also have differences. Did they hurt anything besides your preconceived notion about how things are supposed to be? Then leave them be because that's what America is about.

Where is it in the bible that says homosexuality is immoral? I don't know the book very well and I'm curious the wording that's used.

[nikimcbee]

I had zero intention of seening Bruno, but a co-worker talked me into seeing it. It had some funny parts, but it was hands down, the most disgusting film I've ever seen.

Haven't seen gi joe, it seems to be too pc for me.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by LobsterBoy

What's with the needless stereotyping?


Where is it in the bible that says homosexuality is immoral? I don't know the book very well and I'm curious the wording that's used.

It's in Leviticus someplace.

[LobsterBoy]

Is that old testament or new?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by LobsterBoy

Is that old testament or new?

Definetly old. I'm not a Bible scholar, but there is a big difference between the 2.

The niki mcbee cliffnote version is this:
Old T: It's all about following nit-picky rules. It's also more of a history of the Jews.

New T: Jesus' teachings; love one another, turn the other cheek.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by LobsterBoy

What's with the needless stereotyping?

Grouping people is useless. If they have similarities they also have differences. Did they hurt anything besides your preconceived notion about how things are supposed to be? Then leave them be because that's what America is about.

Where is it in the bible that says homosexuality is immoral? I don't know the book very well and I'm curious the wording that's used.

as i said... i should have chosen my words more carefully.

im mainly referring to these guys in the article linked in the original post.

why have an event and go out of their way to offend a religious group who is equally entitled to their opinion?

[LobsterBoy]

I believe it's a protest against a religious group that gays believe treat them as less than equal.

[ETR3(SS)]

So why don't all the gays/lesbians go have a protest at the Vatican? Last time I checked the Mormon church isnt that big. Besides they probably didn't get that autograph from Donny and Marie that they wanted are in huff about it.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

So why don't all the gays/lesbians go have a protest at the Vatican? Last time I checked the Mormon church isnt that big. Besides they probably didn't get that autograph from Donny and Marie that they wanted are in huff about it.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by LobsterBoy

I believe it's a protest against a religious group that gays believe treat them as less than equal.

this all started back a month or two ago when two gay dudes were on Mormon private property having a makeout session.

they were asked to hault their activities and leave the property due to inappropriate behavior. (if it were a man and woman they would have been asked to do the same)

you cant win with special interest groups like these... they dont want equal rights

they want special rights

[Shearwater]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Definetly old. I'm not a Bible scholar, but there is a big difference between the 2.

Leviticus, 8,22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (King James version)

Quite unmistakable. But why should this have any relevance in politics? It's just the bible.
What's going on at the moment is of course a discussion about the rights of people with same-sex preference. But at its root it is also about the age old 'separation of church and state' issue.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Shearwater

Leviticus, 8,22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (King James version)

Quite unmistakable. But why should this have any relevance in politics? It's just the bible.
What's going on at the moment is of course a discussion about the rights of people with same-sex preference. But at its root it is also about the age old 'separation of church and state' issue.

i dont think either issue has roots here.

its a matter of respect and decency.

Entity A: publicly opposes the views of Entity B

Entity B: is upset with Entity A over their opinion (to which they are entitled)

as a result, Entity B stages some childish and disrespectful peep show meant to offend the views of Entity A.

both are well within their rights

Entity A has the right to it's opinion

Entity B has the right to protest

but my underlying question is... can the protest not be civil? can it not be tasteful?

i mean whats wrong with carrying signs and chanting some sort of protest mantra?

[Shearwater]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i dont think either issue has roots here.
its a matter of respect and decency. [...]

but my underlying question is... can the protest not be civil? can it not be tasteful?

I don't know if it's simply a matter of respect and decency. If it were, there probably wouldn't be so much zeal on either side. And in such cases, both sides tend to be carried away in the process.
As to tasteful ... I think that's different to everyone. Generally I disapprove of PDAs in general, so it has nothing to do whether they happen between members of the same or opposite sex. But it's still way better than hurling bricks.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i dont think either issue has roots here.

its a matter of respect and decency.

Entity A: publicly opposes the views of Entity B

Entity B: is upset with Entity A over their opinion (to which they are entitled)

as a result, Entity B stages some childish and disrespectful peep show meant to offend the views of Entity A.

both are well within their rights

Entity A has the right to it's opinion

Entity B has the right to protest

but my underlying question is... can the protest not be civil? can it not be tasteful?

i mean whats wrong with carrying signs and chanting some sort of protest mantra?

Just to add to what GR said, you have two hypersensitive groups trying to step on each others toes. The prop 8 in california opposition was heavily backed by the LDS church, the "gay community" is still really pissed about this getting shot down by the voters. I see this as payback.