Why are people so angry at the health care town halls?

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by Rilder

90% - Falling to fear mongering in the media.

I agree.
Money runs the show, the more show the more money to the medias in form of advertisements...
Some people are just too easy to freak out...

Originally Posted by Carotio

I agree.
Money runs the show, the more show the more money to the medias in form of advertisements...
Some people are just too easy to freak out...

THE GOVERNMENTS ARE COMING FOR YOU, YOU KNOW THE TRUTH NOW THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOU.:rotfl:

[sharkbit]

I'm immune-I wear my tinfoil hat when on the internetz or watching tv so the government can't read my thoughts or influence my thinking.

[Platapus]

Considering that there still aint no health plan, I also wonder why people are getting so upset.

We have three drafts that are still going through the House committees. The House of Representatives does not have a formal health plan yet. We have not even started with the Senate edits and changes.

No one has any idea what the final health plan coming out of congress will look like.....no one.

Way way too early to get this upset.

We have miles to go before we rest.

Instead of yelling at town hall meetings, I wonder how many of these yellers have sat down and written their three representatives an unemotional letter giving the facts and their desires/opinions on this matter?

I wager, few.

Now is not the time for yelling, now is the time to contact your three representatives.. as well as your various state representatives.

That's how a representative democracy works... Not yelling on camera.

[Aramike]

Considering that there still aint no health plan, I also wonder why people are getting so upset.

So wait - you think that people should wait until AFTER a bill is passed to get upset?

Btw, why do you think Obama wanted a bill before recess? (Hint: he knew that public outcry would be ardent.)

Instead of yelling at town hall meetings, I wonder how many of these yellers have sat down and written their three representatives an unemotional letter giving the facts and their desires/opinions on this matter?

I wager, few.

I wager, MANY, MANY times more than who show up at town halls.

[Skybird]

US citizens may want to meditate about these numbers:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8201711.stm

And they may want to take into account this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/op...14krugman.html

The reason for the massive, collective spike of hysteric emotions imo is lacking understanding of what the reform plans to do, lacking understanding of how much insurance there already is and how much many of those being against it already benefit from it, and an agenda totally indepedant from the object being: discussed to do maximum damage to Obama for him not being Republican, and revenge for Republicans not having won the elections. Like Islam is deeply offended by everything not being Islam, Republicans are deeply offended by not being elected into power. For the Republican party, getting back to power or staying in power, justifies every means. EVERY means. And they have often proved that since WWII.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Skybird

US citizens may want to meditate about these numbers:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8201711.stm

And they may want to take into account this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/op...14krugman.html

The reason for the massive, collective spike of hysteric emotions imo is lacking understanding of what the reform plans to do, lacking understanding of how much insurance there already is and how much many of those being against it already benefit from it, and an agenda totally indepedant from the object being: discussed to do maximum damage to Obama for him not being Republican, and revenge for Republicans not having won the elections. Like Islam is deeply offended by everything not being Islam, Republicans are deeply offended by not being elected into power. For the Republican party, getting back to power or staying in power, justifies every means. EVERY means. And they have often proved that since WWII.

I don't necessarily disagree with you completely (even though I do somewhat), but I find your argument to be completely one-sided - the Democratic party is EXACTLY the same way.

I can cite liberal hypocrisies for hours (and the same for conservatives). Like Nancy Pelosi telling antiwar protesters that she's a fan of disruptors, then going on to attack healthcare critics for disruptions.

http://www.breitbart.tv/06-flashback...of-disruptors/

In the end, its all about power to these people - that's the one trait that crosses party lines.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Aramike

So wait - you think that people should wait until AFTER a bill is passed to get upset?

.

Not necessarily after it is passed, but if people are gonna whine, they should at least wait until there is a final version to whine about.

There should not be any whine before its time.

That's why I posted that the appropriate thing to do NOW is write to your representatives.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Not necessarily after it is passed, but if people are gonna whine, they should at least wait until there is a final version to whine about.

There should not be any whine before its time.

That's why I posted that the appropriate thing to do NOW is write to your representatives.

I disagree. People should not wait until zero hour to help formulate policy. Think about it: this WOULD be the final bill if the masses were silent.

Originally Posted by sharkbit

I'm immune-I wear my tinfoil hat when on the internetz or watching tv so the government can't read my thoughts or influence my thinking.

They want you to wear tinfoil since it amplifies their signals..

The only effective defense is a lead helmet.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rilder

They want you to wear tinfoil since it amplifies their signals..

The only effective defense is a lead helmet.

Doesn't work. Better store your head and brain separately.