It will be the end of the Democrats as a Party

sunvalleyslim · 08-08-09, 07:42 PM

GoldenRivet,
You are so right. If you have your own HealthCare Insurance plan you need to be worried. This is for the uninsured, but if you do have your own plan it will be taken away........that is you will be forced to accept The National Plan.
I have a house in Mexico. I have a FM-3 card (legal residence). It entitles me to free medical care in Mexico. The Mexican citizens I have known for 20 years do not use their own free nationalized medicine. They all go to their own doctors, and pay cash for good medical treatment. They do not trust nationalized medicine. So that has shown to me that it does'nt work.
If you have your own medical plan, please, please voice your own opinion in this regard. It will do no good for our society to be subugated to a lower standard. Merely MHO.....SVS

08-08-09, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sunvalleyslim

GoldenRivet,
You are so right. If you have your own HealthCare Insurance plan you need to be worried. This is for the uninsured, but if you do have your own plan it will be taken away........that is you will be forced to accept The National Plan.
I have a house in Mexico. I have a FM-3 card (legal residence). It entitles me to free medical care in Mexico. The Mexican citizens I have known for 20 years do not use their own free nationalized medicine. They all go to their own doctors, and pay cash for good medical treatment. They do not trust nationalized medicine. So that has shown to me that it does'nt work.
If you have your own medical plan, please, please voice your own opinion in this regard. It will do no good for our society to be subugated to a lower standard. Merely MHO.....SVS

Maybe having a health care system that works is just too difficult a task for Americans, United Staters and Mexicans both. Something that has been the norm for us Finns since as long as I know is just too overwhelmingly difficult to Americans. Maybe it really is so and we should all just let it rest at that, forever.

antikristuseke · 08-08-09, 08:13 PM

Oth, to be frank, the scales at which yo are dealing with are different. The larger the target the more difficult it is to get a large scale universal system to work efficently, for countries the size of Sweden, Finland and Estonia it is relatively easy to get a universal healthcare system to function, for something larger, not so much. Though I am fairly certain it can be done, and should, it is not quite as clear cut or simple as you seem to make it out to be.

GoldenRivet · 08-08-09, 08:18 PM

i agree that something needs to be done to tweak our health care system.

this is not it however.

a man should not have to wait 3 days to be treated for a Broken Collar bone!!!

give me a GD break

my two main questions are this:

1. Why WHY are the democrats in such a mad ass hurry to push this thing through?

2. Where does it benefit them??? do they have money tied up in something thats going to make them all rich if this monstrosity passes?

all real Americans, all responsible Americans need to step back and look at the big picture here... what are they not telling us? and whats the rush???

the two immediate effects i see if this thing is passed.

1. Americans will riot... or in the very least flock to DC in anger and protest.

2. The Republicans will win the next majority.

mookiemookie · 08-09-09, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

1. Why WHY are the democrats in such a mad ass hurry to push this thing through?

FIREWALL · 08-08-09, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Maybe having a health care system that works is just too difficult a task for Americans, United Staters and Mexicans both. Something that has been the norm for us Finns since as long as I know is just too overwhelmingly difficult to Americans. Maybe it really is so and we should all just let it rest at that, forever.

Next you'll be telling us , sh!t tastes like chocalate icecream.

GoldenRivet · 08-08-09, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Next you'll be telling us , sh!t tastes like chocalate icecream.

Rocky Road

08-08-09, 07:42 PM	#1
sunvalleyslim Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	GoldenRivet, You are so right. If you have your own HealthCare Insurance plan you need to be worried. This is for the uninsured, but if you do have your own plan it will be taken away........that is you will be forced to accept The National Plan. I have a house in Mexico. I have a FM-3 card (legal residence). It entitles me to free medical care in Mexico. The Mexican citizens I have known for 20 years do not use their own free nationalized medicine. They all go to their own doctors, and pay cash for good medical treatment. They do not trust nationalized medicine. So that has shown to me that it does'nt work. If you have your own medical plan, please, please voice your own opinion in this regard. It will do no good for our society to be subugated to a lower standard. Merely MHO.....SVS __________________ Crew member/ decommission member TM2(SS)(SD) 3/68-7/70 DIESEL BOATS FOREVER USS SEGUNDO (SS398)

08-08-09, 08:18 PM	#4
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	i agree that something needs to be done to tweak our health care system. this is not it however. a man should not have to wait 3 days to be treated for a Broken Collar bone!!! give me a GD break my two main questions are this: 1. Why WHY are the democrats in such a mad ass hurry to push this thing through? 2. Where does it benefit them??? do they have money tied up in something thats going to make them all rich if this monstrosity passes? all real Americans, all responsible Americans need to step back and look at the big picture here... what are they not telling us? and whats the rush??? the two immediate effects i see if this thing is passed. 1. Americans will riot... or in the very least flock to DC in anger and protest. 2. The Republicans will win the next majority. __________________

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08-08-09, 08:13 PM	#3
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Oth, to be frank, the scales at which yo are dealing with are different. The larger the target the more difficult it is to get a large scale universal system to work efficently, for countries the size of Sweden, Finland and Estonia it is relatively easy to get a universal healthcare system to function, for something larger, not so much. Though I am fairly certain it can be done, and should, it is not quite as clear cut or simple as you seem to make it out to be.