Chinese carrier weapon

07-07-09, 09:00 AM

Basically the deal is, when the aliens land, we will be declared as uncivilized barbarians and slaughtered wholesale.

Max2147 · 07-07-09, 09:09 AM

That's what we built the SM-3 for.

Actually, since it needs external guidance to hit a moving target that can change direction, the best way to defeat an ASBM would probably be through some form of ECM to mess with the guidance system.

Letum · 07-07-09, 10:01 AM

Would carriers really be of use in a war of super powers anyway?

Jimbuna · 07-07-09, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Would carriers really be of use in a war of super powers anyway?

They would still be useful in delivering tactical nuclear ordnance deep into enemy held territory by means of their airwings.

Skybird · 07-07-09, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

They would still be useful in delivering tactical nuclear ordnance deep into enemy held territory by means of their airwings.

If they survive long enough. A submarine with nuclear missiles has better chances.

Jimbuna · 07-07-09, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

If they survive long enough. A submarine with nuclear missiles has better chances.

But would they have the same range and numbers/varieties of ordnance that said airwing could carry?

Remember, I'm making reference to tactical nukes here, not strategic or ICBM.

Steel_Tomb · 07-07-09, 11:03 AM

Does anyone still actually have nuclear tipped fish? I thought they were all gone, replaced in favour of cruise missiles and conventional fish.

Skybird · 07-07-09, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

But would they have the same range and numbers/varieties of ordnance that said airwing could carry?

Remember, I'm making reference to tactical nukes here, not strategic or ICBM.

1. For example the old TLAM had a range of 2500 km. It carried submunition warheads, nuclear warheads (wiki says 200 kt), or fragmentation warheads.

2. Airwings can't take off from 4000 m below sea level.

3. If the duel is modern CBG versus modern SSN, I bet my money on the SSN. Even more money I would bet if the sub is a modern SS and the CBG runs into it. Defending a CBG versus a Gotland or 212 trapping the CBG in transit must be a nightmare.

goldorak · 07-07-09, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

But would they have the same range and numbers/varieties of ordnance that said airwing could carry?

Remember, I'm making reference to tactical nukes here, not strategic or ICBM.

Submarines can launch TLAM with tatical nuclear warheads no ?
Its more cost effective to have a sub launch 20 TLAM from somewhere in the pacific undetected.

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07-07-09, 09:00 AM	#1
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Basically the deal is, when the aliens land, we will be declared as uncivilized barbarians and slaughtered wholesale.

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Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That's what we built the SM-3 for. Actually, since it needs external guidance to hit a moving target that can change direction, the best way to defeat an ASBM would probably be through some form of ECM to mess with the guidance system.