How do you sink ships when it is Dark and pouring rain.

Mikeb213 · 07-03-09, 06:58 PM

I agree with that! You may have to get in pretty close to if you feel more comfortable by actually seeing what you are doing. You can manually take your berings from your radar and sonar also to fire torps. That is pretty much how the nuke subs do it now is all based on sonar.

Rockin Robbins · 07-03-09, 09:43 PM

Welcome to Subsim, Lastman. Why don't you drop on over to......oh

. You can but it won't do any good right now with the earthquake at Filefront.

Well, in a couple of days you can drop by the Sub Skippers' Bag of Tricks thread and bone up on shooting by sonar.

Armistead · 07-03-09, 11:20 PM

I prefer the deckgun. Just use radar or sonar to get close. Use sonar to get range, get on the gun and ask for constant bearings and fire away. I like to get about 1000 yards. When the ships catches fire it's easy to see. Just don't get too close...they open up close your gonna get damaged and lose some gunners.

Captain Vlad · 07-03-09, 11:32 PM

If you're using manual targeting, a useful trick for a surface attack is to learn to fire by eye. You can see the shadow of a ship a long time before you can identify it, and if you can judge how much 'lead' you need, you can fire a spread without the TDC.

I usually fire a spread of 3-4 torps are 'silhouette only' targets, waiting about one second between each fish.

You've got to get really close to do this effectively, but in the kind of weather I imagine you're talking about you can get right up on them before they can see you. Hell, it's better to stay out a bit so they don't see you.

Though, a thought occurs...are you talking about sinking ships or finding ships to sink?

Morpheus · 07-04-09, 12:33 AM

i am not sure how u.s. navy handled this durning wwII, but i am pretty sure the germans wouldn't attack under such bad weather conditions, but rather shaddow the convoy and wait for a better chance ...

but then again, maby i am wrong - coz i realy dont know ^^

morph

Rockin Robbins · 07-04-09, 07:23 AM

Filefront links are back up. Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks is open for business.

I would use a combination of sonar, radar and visual technique. Sonar only is a neat trick, but all manner of variations are possible.

I don't know how much sense it will make to you right now, but what I've done is first, accurately plot the target's course and speed with radar. Set yourself up for a Dick O'Kane attack at the limit of visibility, hopefully between 500 and 1000 yards. At this point the only piece of information you care about is bearing to the target.

Shoot when the radar or sonar bearing is correct for your lead angle. You can even shoot using passive sonar only! Make it a spread then because passive sonar has a bit of lag sometimes. He might actually be ahead of the sonar line. The line is already corrected for MOT (middle of target).

Of course if you see him, you can shoot visually on the correct lead angle and tag him every time.

Lastman2533 · 07-05-09, 07:59 AM

Thanks for the help guys. This is really going to help me.

07-03-09, 09:43 PM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Welcome to Subsim, Lastman. Why don't you drop on over to......oh. You can but it won't do any good right now with the earthquake at Filefront. Well, in a couple of days you can drop by the Sub Skippers' Bag of Tricks thread and bone up on shooting by sonar. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

07-03-09, 11:32 PM	#4
Captain Vlad Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pollard, Oklahoma Posts: 679 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	If you're using manual targeting, a useful trick for a surface attack is to learn to fire by eye. You can see the shadow of a ship a long time before you can identify it, and if you can judge how much 'lead' you need, you can fire a spread without the TDC. I usually fire a spread of 3-4 torps are 'silhouette only' targets, waiting about one second between each fish. You've got to get really close to do this effectively, but in the kind of weather I imagine you're talking about you can get right up on them before they can see you. Hell, it's better to stay out a bit so they don't see you. Though, a thought occurs...are you talking about sinking ships or finding ships to sink? __________________ "Stop sounding battlestations just to hear the alarm."

07-04-09, 07:23 AM	#6
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Filefront links are back up. Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks is open for business. I would use a combination of sonar, radar and visual technique. Sonar only is a neat trick, but all manner of variations are possible. I don't know how much sense it will make to you right now, but what I've done is first, accurately plot the target's course and speed with radar. Set yourself up for a Dick O'Kane attack at the limit of visibility, hopefully between 500 and 1000 yards. At this point the only piece of information you care about is bearing to the target. Shoot when the radar or sonar bearing is correct for your lead angle. You can even shoot using passive sonar only! Make it a spread then because passive sonar has a bit of lag sometimes. He might actually be ahead of the sonar line. The line is already corrected for MOT (middle of target). Of course if you see him, you can shoot visually on the correct lead angle and tag him every time. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

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07-03-09, 06:58 PM	#1
Mikeb213 Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 49 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I agree with that! You may have to get in pretty close to if you feel more comfortable by actually seeing what you are doing. You can manually take your berings from your radar and sonar also to fire torps. That is pretty much how the nuke subs do it now is all based on sonar.

07-03-09, 11:20 PM	#3
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I prefer the deckgun. Just use radar or sonar to get close. Use sonar to get range, get on the gun and ask for constant bearings and fire away. I like to get about 1000 yards. When the ships catches fire it's easy to see. Just don't get too close...they open up close your gonna get damaged and lose some gunners.

07-04-09, 12:33 AM	#5
Morpheus Ensign Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 234 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	i am not sure how u.s. navy handled this durning wwII, but i am pretty sure the germans wouldn't attack under such bad weather conditions, but rather shaddow the convoy and wait for a better chance ... but then again, maby i am wrong - coz i realy dont know ^^ morph

07-05-09, 07:59 AM	#7
Lastman2533 Nub Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the help guys. This is really going to help me.