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Old 05-26-09, 10:50 AM   #16
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I'm serious man. For that split second everything on earth stoped except my heart, it beat once, I could feal it move. Longest second of my life.
I have no more words to describe how messed up that moment was for me. Funny as it seems now, my life flashed before my eyes.


Oh, and yes I checked my pants.
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Old 05-26-09, 11:27 AM   #17
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Actually...I DID see a documentary a while ago on the Military Channel (part of History Channel on Sky) about a nuclear project going on in Japan.If I remember rightly towards the very end of the war or maybe even after it I cant remember,a German UBoat carrying secret documents,materials and a small number of high ranking Japanese scientists set sail from Germany to Japan.Suffice to say they never made it,and I think the allies captured an amount of Plutonium,and hard water harvested in Norway,and I think there were a number of vials of mercury salvaged too.
The Japanese plan was to send balloons across the Pacific with a rudimentary nuclear payload attached,and...good night N.York and Washington.
Then shortly after the Americans did the reverse and nuked Japan.

Ahh,the controversies of history

It was the U-234 and was a type XB sub.

It was carrying 2 ME-262 Jet fighters (actually parts)
560 Kg of U3O8 (Uranium Oxide)
Assorted technical documents on advanced torpedoes
and, 12 passengers including the aforementioned two Japanese Officers

The U-234 surrendered to American forces on 14 May 45. The two Japanese Officers committed suicide, the scientist passengers we recruited via Operation Paperclip.

The transportation of U3O8 has caused some debate over the years. At first it was thought to be a delivery to the Japanese Nuclear Program. However U3O8 is also used in the production of synthetic fuels such as Methanol.

560kg of U3O8 is not a lot when it comes to Uranium Enrichment, especially when the Japanese were using a Thermal Diffusion process. However 560 KG of U3O8 is a significant amount as a catalyst in the fuel process.

A most interesting subject.
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Old 05-26-09, 11:33 AM   #18
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I'm serious man. For that split second everything on earth stoped except my heart, it beat once, I could feal it move. Longest second of my life.
I have no more words to describe how messed up that moment was for me. Funny as it seems now, my life flashed before my eyes.


Oh, and yes I checked my pants.

You are, of course, entitled to your own reactions, but I have to ask, why would you think that a test of a Korean missile would result in an attack on Montana?

And don't you think any "effect" of the missile would precede the news reporting? If the news is reporting a missile launch, it has already landed/crashed.

The hatred the North Koreans have for Montana is well known, but I don't think they would use a missile test to take out Montana.
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It was the U-234 and was a type XB sub.

It was carrying 2 ME-262 Jet fighters (actually parts)
560 Kg of U3O8 (Uranium Oxide)
Assorted technical documents on advanced torpedoes
and, 12 passengers including the aforementioned two Japanese Officers

The U-234 surrendered to American forces on 14 May 45. The two Japanese Officers committed suicide, the scientist passengers we recruited via Operation Paperclip.

The transportation of U3O8 has caused some debate over the years. At first it was thought to be a delivery to the Japanese Nuclear Program. However U3O8 is also used in the production of synthetic fuels such as Methanol.

560kg of U3O8 is not a lot when it comes to Uranium Enrichment, especially when the Japanese were using a Thermal Diffusion process. However 560 KG of U3O8 is a significant amount as a catalyst in the fuel process.

A most interesting subject.
I agree with you sir. Very interesting subject.
And very good piece of information you gave us here !!
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Old 05-26-09, 11:56 AM   #20
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This mission would fail without question.

Come on, IX sonar magnets? All the N.Koreans need is a tug boat and a cheap fish finder.
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The Japanese plan was to send balloons across the Pacific with a rudimentary nuclear payload attached,and...good night N.York and Washington.
They did that with some incendiary bombs, but of course it's the world's least accurate delivery method. They'd have been lucky to hit anything as large as Pasco, Washington, if they'd tried that.
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Old 05-26-09, 01:04 PM   #22
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It was just that second. I didn't know what to think, caught off guard.

We have a lot of missle silos around here and I sit between Minot, Glascow, and Greatfalls Air Force Bases.

It was just freaky, when all I heard was missles launched and the T.V. and lights went out.

Plus Lil Kim hates the fact that I have more nukes on or near my property than he does.
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Ahh Nuke-envy
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I mean this guy,he is barely 3ft tall,has a head the shape of a water mellon,has troops that march like a bunch of bloody poofs doing ballet,has recently suffered a stroke,and has the audacious nerve to flex his tiny biceps to the world?!

One of our trident subs alone would cause N.Korea to disappear without trace if we so wanted.

You have been warned little hobbit :rotfl:
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In relation to the story posted a bit earlier in the thread about U 234, was there not a U boat that was also carrying something to Japan, that was torpedoed by a British Submarine? one of the only sub to sub torpedo victorys ever recorded? or did I just imagine that.
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Old 05-29-09, 09:36 AM   #26
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Default I saw that on a Sky TV documentary quite recently

I saw a doc. about something like that.A german UBoat was going,somewhere,unaware it was being shadowed by a British sub.They managed to plot the UBoat's course completely blind,setting themselves up for a 3 stage attack,with something like a few minutes between shots (I think).The UBoat immediately picked up the first incoming torpedo,ordered a steep dive,causing the torpedo to pass over the top,again,they heard another,same again,and a 3rd,which slammed into the UBoat destroying it.

I forget what was on board the UBoat,or where they were going.I think it is a different story than the Japanese cargo mentioned before,and I may be wrong.
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Old 05-29-09, 09:41 AM   #27
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Just to let you know,N.Korea have in fact launched another short range BM today,making that their 6th in a week!,not to mention their underground atomic bomb test at the beginning of the week.S.Korean forces have been sent to garrison the border between the two states,in case hostilities break out.

Really,its getting out of control,and I think its only a matter of time before somebody gets nuked
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Old 05-29-09, 12:09 PM   #28
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I agree Paul. Moreover, I agree with that excellent military history author Max Hastings, who said yesterday that the N.Korean leader was "quite mad, by any measure of the term".
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Yes,quite mad,and a worthy candidate for the firing squad too
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Old 05-29-09, 12:14 PM   #30
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Hey Paul,
I bet the weather is nice in Barbados tonight hehe,I can just imagine a periscope sailing past as you sleep under a palm tree with the setting sun
Do you live there,or just on holiday?
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