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Old 05-08-09, 09:37 AM   #1
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Hmm, yeah, been waiting for this one as well, been a while since we had a new good WWII Grand Strategy game

And Hearts of Iron III is coming out in August too, so that leaves me enough to play for the summer
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Old 05-08-09, 10:33 AM   #2
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Hmmm, and I just got a copy of this game on ebay. It's the final edition, it's unpunched, and I only paid $30!!!! Now, if I only had the space to play it

I'll have to get the Matrix version, too. We may have to set up a thread for PBEM games.
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Old 05-08-09, 12:06 PM   #3
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I am not sure if PBEM will already be in the first release version. But it is in the making.

But maybe I mistake this with some other new game.
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Old 05-08-09, 01:42 PM   #4
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Thanks for reminding me that I have this great game in my closet, along with PanzerBlitz, Afrika Korps, Diplomacy, and even Axis and Allies, gathering dust because no one I know will play it with me. I can't even get anyone to play Risk.
On the other hand, lame-ass games like Scene-It and Yahtzee seem to find their way into the mix consistently. If it weren't for Texas Hold'em, I'd probably go insane.
Oh man ! I'd Still go insane !!! I HATE Yahtzee and plain card games. I need strategy in my games, not just luck. I'd go nuts if it wasn't for Chess. I just got for free the seccond chess computer ever sold to the public (dating back to 1977), and it still works. I've been having a blast with that. I've also recently discovered the free chess engines on the net and am actively getting my butt handed to me by them.
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Chess Challenger 3, maybe? That one was either the first or second commercial computer ever.

I have a collection of magic chess boxes myself, beside the usual PC software of today.
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Oh man ! I'd Still go insane !!! I HATE Yahtzee and plain card games. I need strategy in my games, not just luck. I'd go nuts if it wasn't for Chess. I just got for free the seccond chess computer ever sold to the public (dating back to 1977), and it still works. I've been having a blast with that. I've also recently discovered the free chess engines on the net and am actively getting my butt handed to me by them.
Yeah....no one will play chess, either. That's what makes the occasional chess thread here so nice. I don't care for card games too much, but I win money playing Hold'em.

So what's that chess computer like? Does it have a GUI? I don't even know what it is but I'm impressed you got it for free, it's gotta be worth something.
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Old 05-08-09, 04:21 PM   #7
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this is the first commercial chess computer that was ever sold, a Chess Challenger 1, by Fidelity. The number of pieces still in service with collectors, probably is not even half a hundred. Collectors would pay for one of these 1000-2000 Euros, depending on it's condition. It was sold in the US only. Only 1000 have been produced.



The second available chess computer was a follow-up to the CC1, and also was delivered 1977. For some reason I do not know it was not called CC2, but CC3. It was the first computer that was sold on the European market as well, and was only slightly more than a correction of the mistakes of the CC1 (which for example had changed the coordinates of notation). Value amongst collectors today: 500- 1500 euros, depending on condition. Not many I would expect to be functional anymore.



That these computers do not really play chess, and more just move pieces around, should be excused. Visually, both models where almost impossible to be differentiated.

The next models in the series were three versions of the chess challenger 10, the Chess Challenger 7, and the CC Voice, which was the slightly stronger machine, if I remember correctly (I have one in my collection). These I used to play against as a kid, standing in the stores at the tables where they had been lined up, together with the CC Voice, Sensory 8, Chess Champion super System III and the Mark I, Mark II, and Mephisto I. Later also came Novag's machines, and the famous Sargon ARB 2.5 (I also own one of these, but not functional anymore )

Blacklight, if you really have a functional piece of one of these two first Challengers, treat it nicely. And if you ever think about making money of it, seek a true collector. The prices I mentioned, are real. I know for sure of two opportunities when a CC3 changed owner for prices between 600 and 800 Euros. For fully functional models that are in visually in exceptionel good shape, you can double that price, and if you talk about a real fucntional, well conserved CC1, then we talk about a small fortune. It's just that many people do not know that , and do not know what they have there when finding one of these in the cellar. It's just an old "toy". Wrong - it's a witness of computer history.

Computer chess is a hobby of mine, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Maybe I know the answer.
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Old 05-08-09, 05:21 PM   #8
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this is the first commercial chess computer that was ever sold, a Chess Challenger 1, by Fidelity.
I got my Boris Chess Computer in '77.

http://www.boris-is-king.com/Boris%2...pubBON_PDF.pdf


Anyone else have (or had) the Boris? I still have mine stored away.
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