Same-sex marriage in Sweden/Gays in military

I've read that overpopulation in a, for example, a rat population leads to aggression. The rats start fighting and killing each other to bring the population down.

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I've read that overpopulation in a, for example, a rat population leads to aggression. The rats start fighting and killing each other to bring the population down.

I can understand aggression but it certainly wouldnt encourage me to start snuggling up alongside my cohorts

Yea well, to equate gays with rats on any level to me seems like that ol' familiar technique that Goebbels & co. were so fond of in relation to the Jews.

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Yea well, to equate gays with rats on any level to me seems like that ol' familiar technique that Goebbels & co. were so fond of in relation to the Jews.

Sorry, you lost me, who's equating gays with rats?

Originally Posted by saltysplash

Sorry, you lost me, who's equating gays with rats?

Hopefully nobody. I guess August's tests were conducted with a human population.

[Frame57]

Brain scan studies of Homosexual men have shown that the amygdala resembles that of a Heterosexual woman. This would indicate the there is an abnormality, which the scientific community had correctly concluded years ago.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by Frame57

Brain scan studies of Homosexual men have shown that the amygdala resembles that of a Heterosexual woman. This would indicate the there is an abnormality, which the scientific community had correctly concluded years ago.

Could you point me in the way of those peer reviewed papers, please?
(this is genuine curiosity, not sarcasm)

[porphy]

Originally Posted by Frame57

Brain scan studies of Homosexual men have shown that the amygdala resembles that of a Heterosexual woman. This would indicate the there is an abnormality, which the scientific community had correctly concluded years ago.

The history of comparing anatomical structures (brain or otherwise) between men and women do have some not so impressive credentials when it comes to the conclusions drawn. Within medicine, anatomy and physiology it wasn't that long ago women were looked upon as a less perfect or less developed form of man... a kind of abnormal creature.

If the brain scan results are valid, it could simply mean that this is quite a normal and frequent occurrence in the human species. If widespread it is a biological variation, or maybe the result of different hormonal exposure. Anyhow, the phenomenon (if it should be viewed as "the cause" of homosexual disposition) has obviously been part of human history for a very very long time. I would be careful with the word abnormal in this context, what does it mean here? That it's uncommon or that it's something faulty?

There are plenty of perfectly normal variations within biological species, that can't easily be classified as a disorder or disease. The way the human species propagates naturally involves and results in not fully clear cut divisions between male and female, so finding some traits that we connect to a "male" or "female" body or behaviour in a man is to be fully expected, not necessarily something abnormal in a strong sense.

Apart from that, sexual orientation and preferences are things which obviously are quite open to influences during life as well. Just have a look at what heterosexual males find possibly sexually interesting... It would be interesting to see how a try to trace every sexual behaviour back to, and explained through, biological factors present from birth, would fare. Probably not very convincing.
Oh, wait, that has already been tried in vain and with some pretty lame results since the birth of the clinic.

cheers porphy