Thought for the day - If the Pirate bay is guilty, where does that leave Google?

[SUBMAN1]

Google can be used to the same degree of success for finding torrents as the Pirate Bay (only mixed in with other info), so is this a witch hunt when we talk of the Pirate Bay?

Here is a related article:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/pirat...illegal_sweden

-S

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Google can be used to the same degree of success for finding torrents as the Pirate Bay (only mixed in with other info), so is this a witch hunt when we talk of the Pirate Bay?

Here is a related article:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/pirat...illegal_sweden

-S

And yet Google is in, vast majority, used to legit searches while Pirate Bay was the opposite.

Seems pretty cut and dry.

[Taygoo]

yeah..

It is a wierd world.

If you say

Pirate bay is guitly, to share links, so a person can get an movie, game or something else... It is not PB fault that, people share illegal files. There is no filter..
But if it is...
So what about google, yahoo, msn, and other search funktions?
And what about the browsers, that makes people abble to see those sites?
And what about the internet, it would not be possible with out the internet?

Now..if the person who did find out about gunpower, or did make the pistol.
Should that person get arrested, and hanged - because other people can use his idea to hurt, kill, some other person?

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

[CaptainHaplo]

Taygoo.... interesting point.

So since Al Gore invented the internet - shouldnt he be charged as an accessory to every crime that has ever involved the internet?

Everything from file sharing to child molestations to that guy that killed women that advertised on whatever list that was....

Where is the outrage??????

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by Aramike

And yet Google is in, vast majority, used to legit searches while Pirate Bay was the opposite.

Seems pretty cut and dry.

That is not entirely true, a heck of a lot of people use Google to search for pirated material (music, movies, cracks, serials, key generators, etc), in fact I would say its the number 1 site for such searches. Pirate Bay also does have plenty of legitimate torrents as well as pirated material. The key point is that neither group filters the content they offer, and you can find "warez" just as easily through both search sites.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

That is not entirely true, a heck of a lot of people use Google to search for pirated material (music, movies, cracks, serials, key generators, etc), in fact I would say its the number 1 site for such searches. Pirate Bay also does have plenty of legitimate torrents as well as pirated material. The key point is that neither group filters the content they offer, and you can find "warez" just as easily through both search sites.

Correct answer right here.

-S

[antikristuseke]

Well, i'll be damned. Agreeing with SUBMAN1 again, the end must be near.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

That is not entirely true, a heck of a lot of people use Google to search for pirated material (music, movies, cracks, serials, key generators, etc), in fact I would say its the number 1 site for such searches. Pirate Bay also does have plenty of legitimate torrents as well as pirated material. The key point is that neither group filters the content they offer, and you can find "warez" just as easily through both search sites.

I'm quite certain that pirated materials are no where near the top of the list of things searched for using Google. I'm pretty sure that "lyrics" and "myspace" leads the pack.

In any case, this isn't anything like the situation with gun manufacturers. Of course no one but the shooter is responsible for the use of the gun. But, what if, say, the dealer explicitly implied that the guns they sell should be used for illegal purposes?

That wouldn't be legal. And that's what Pirate Bay did. You all DID know the site was founded by an anti-copyright group, right?

[CaptainHaplo]

Its amazing how this discussion mirrors the one on hate crimes.

Its not about what you do with a search engine - or what crime you commit...

It appears the biggest crime is what the intent is when you create a searchable index, or kill a person. If your intent is just to get every peice of the internet indexed, as well as find secret chinese subs and map every square inch of land on the face of the planet - then its ok. Even though these indexes could lead to robberies, pirated intellectual property, etc.
You didn't have an "intent".

Now - if you happen to be a radical who goes against the established norms, having views against what you feel is unfair laws (in this case, copyright laws) and you create a search engine that has no copyrighted data on it - though you do link to sources the same way the example above does - your a criminal who should be incarcerated.

Why? Because your views are against what others think. So your a radical - and must be silenced and punished regardless of if you actually did anything illegal.

Using that same logic - the US wouldn't be its own nation.... Monarchies and similiar would still be the only powers in the world.

Your allowed to have ideas - your allowed to push them. Its only if you DO something illegal that you should be punished. The key here is that the founders didn't actually commit a crime. But because they are radicals in their thinking, they must be punished.

Again - why not go after the pirates instead? See - justice is not blind nor equitable.

[Taygoo]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Taygoo.... interesting point.

So since Al Gore invented the internet - shouldnt he be charged as an accessory to every crime that has ever involved the internet?

Well I don't think so.. but ask the judges