Making a battleship-sub....

[denis_469]

Originally Posted by keltos01

Denis,

do you have any more information regarding the sub in your picture ?

Does the photo date back to WWII ?

Where and how did you get it ?

do you have a higher resolution scan of that photo ? there are 2 sailors visible I think on the aft starboard side.

keltos

Answers:
Foto this submarine is near all what I have. Alsa know that it japan submarine abd have 2 305mm guns.

Verification that it foto made during WWII I can not made. During I himself know about submarines, I can say that it submarine was building between WWI and WWII, so during WWI sich submarines can not building. It was techical impossible. After WWII from all submarines guns was delete. So submarine in foto was building after WWI and before end WWII.

I receive this foto from one american man in 1999 year with other materials about unidentifikied few other german and japan submarines from USN during WWII. For example 1 US destroyer during DC attack submarine rise from water wrecks from attacking submarine what she domding DC. Or other when near Alaska other US destroyer DC other japan submarine and see she hull rise from water after explosions DC and after it down into water. All knowlege japan submarine not was in place in time attack DC.

I have not more resolution this foto. Simple - it's single foto what I have to this japan submarine.

If interesting more about unidentified submarines...
http://sovpl.forum24.ru/?1-4-0-00000...0-0-1238431092

It's what I researche work.
But near all text in russian.

[Sailor Steve]

I once made an Iowa class submarine.

In my bathtub.:rotfl:

When I was nine.

[keltos01]

Originally Posted by denis_469

Answers:
Foto this submarine is near all what I have. Alsa know that it japan submarine abd have 2 305mm guns.

Verification that it foto made during WWII I can not made. During I himself know about submarines, I can say that it submarine was building between WWI and WWII, so during WWI sich submarines can not building. It was techical impossible. After WWII from all submarines guns was delete. So submarine in foto was building after WWI and before end WWII.

I receive this foto from one american man in 1999 year with other materials about unidentifikied few other german and japan submarines from USN during WWII. For example 1 US destroyer during DC attack submarine rise from water wrecks from attacking submarine what she domding DC. Or other when near Alaska other US destroyer DC other japan submarine and see she hull rise from water after explosions DC and after it down into water. All knowlege japan submarine not was in place in time attack DC.

I have not more resolution this foto. Simple - it's single foto what I have to this japan submarine.

If interesting more about unidentified submarines...
http://sovpl.forum24.ru/?1-4-0-00000...0-0-1238431092

It's what I researche work.
But near all text in russian.

from here :
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/show...d=1#post155127

I think the picture is of M2 aka X2. British, based on a converted K-Class Hull. Two turreted versions were produced, one with 1x 8-inch gun, one with 2x 6-inch guns.
The one with the 6-inch guns was later converted further as a seaplane carrier, with the hangar replacing the turret.

This could be a rare picture of that submarine before it was converted to the seaplane carrier configuration.

Surcouf was essentially a French copy of the same vessel, though about 10% larger, IIRC.

(Source for this is Purnell's : Submarines since 1919.)

I have no recall whatsoever of the IJN having a submarine in the Surcouf/X2 class, as a U-Cruiser.

Regards, Uyraell

English then

Keltos

[Regio Sommergibile]

Found a confirmation on WIKI

Maybe is not enough but it's the third link available in my research about it; i think it can be confirmed...

[denis_469]

Originally Posted by keltos01

from here :
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/show...d=1#post155127



English then

Keltos

Apparantly wrong. I find data about all subs M class in RN. All 3 sub have 1 305mm gun plus 4 457mm tt. 1 boat was restored in seaplane carrier, 1 was restored in minelayer. During icidents was lost M-1 and M-2. Submarine in foto have 2 305mm guns instead 1 gun in to M class. So it's not true.

Submarine M-1 with gun.


As see - submarine in foto in 2 time more then M-1 submarine/.

And today find in net one more unidentified submarine


http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/146198.html

[denis_469]

Originally Posted by Regio Sommergibile

Haven't you had a look at my link?


and again...


HERE something else about HMS M1

I see you link, but submarine M class too small for weapons what can see in to foto unidentified submarine. If you see in size sailors on deck submarine you can see that guns not 203mm, but 305mm in turret. For sich turret submarine M class too small.

[Regio Sommergibile]

i can't find the sentence about the two guns... Btw those named are not so big. Sorry was a mispelling