Obama what the hell are you doing?

[Etienne]

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

This thread isn't about that, so you wasted your time typing that up. Its about Obama killing his chances by going against his promise.

Should we have the thread about the extremely short memory of the voting public now, or do you want to wait a few years?

[Aramike]

That still doesnt mean there's much of a reason to own one.

The beauty of a free society is that you don't have to justify your reasons for owning things.

But hey, why not ban 60" or larger TVs? There's not really much of a reason to need anything over 55"...

That's a pretty slippery slope we'd be going down, don't you think?

In any case, can anyone tell me the harm caused by a law-abiding citizen owning an assault rifle? Anyone?

Didn't think so.

You Europeans can keep your nanny-states, thank you.

Originally Posted by August

Zachstar didn't say anything about impeachment, at least in this thread, you did.

You incorrectly attempted to compare a decision based on flawed (but long standing) intelligence, with a deliberate attempt to commit perjury in a court of law. I can't see why you have such a difficult time understanding such a significant difference.

So you admit it then, so why are you complaining when someone returns your fire?

You are actually correct. After rereading his initial post his point is different from what I saw in it inititally. I misread.

So, Zach, if you read, this, I honestly apologize for making a false claim based on your name and posting.

That said, and Zach beeing the victim of the whole discussion that came up here several times already, I generally stay by what I said. This obsession for weapons and violence sold as morales and constitutional rights is hardly believeable. The more folks talk and defend these kinda weapons here, especially with emotions boiling up to impeachment rethorics, tell a story of not mature, objective judgement, but immature, almost childish emotions of ppl beeing afraid a grown up taking away their dangerous playtools.
And frankly, this is the way I percieve the weapons fanatics as well, going by the way they approach this topic.

And just to underline this, I did not complain, no matter how you percieve it, August. You can defend the hypocrisis all you want, as long as you do not even see where folks like me and others are coming from, instead repeating the same "you have no idea, you do not understand, do not critizse" you can't expect to be convincing at all.

[August]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

The more folks talk and defend these kinda weapons here, especially with emotions boiling up to impeachment rethorics, tell a story of not mature, objective judgement, but immature, almost childish emotions of ppl beeing afraid a grown up taking away their dangerous playtools.
And frankly, this is the way I percieve the weapons fanatics as well, going by the way they approach this topic.

Again YOU are the one who brought up impeachment so the rhetoric here is yours and yours alone. But thank you for telling us that we are childish and immature hypocrites Bewolf. Your opinion is so noted.

Originally Posted by August

Again YOU are the one who brought up impeachment so the rhetoric here is yours and yours alone. But thank you for telling us that we are childish and immature hypocrites Bewolf. Your opinion is so noted.

Nope. Zach brought it up. Not in the way I understood it, but the entry line came from him.

Sarcasm does not do you well in supporting your point here. Aramike in the other thread didn't convince me either, but at least he is taken seriously in what he said.

[August]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Sarcasm does not do you well in supporting your point here. Aramike in the other thread didn't convince me either, but at least he is taken seriously in what he said.

The beauty part is we don't have to convince you Bewolf. This is our country and our laws we are talking about, not yours.