When You Shouldn't Shoot A Kongo

[AVGWarhawk]

Now, that is just heart breaking.

[Starforce2]

it's possible had you gotten far enough away, say 4500-6500 yards you could have slowed and shelled it without much problem. I've done this with DD's and heavy cruisers who've not seen me at all at night, but it depends on the exact conditions, which require a bit of haze. Plus it looks like ya had a bit of moon there...

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Starforce2

it's possible had you gotten far enough away, say 4500-6500 yards you could have slowed and shelled it without much problem. I've done this with DD's and heavy cruisers who've not seen me at all at night, but it depends on the exact conditions, which require a bit of haze. Plus it looks like ya had a bit of moon there...

Seems to be a game failure as I use to do this all the time. If they can't see you, many times they just act as if on patrol and you can bomb away.

[TheSamuraiJedi]

The accounts of Yamato taking that number of torpedoes is also dependant on US pilots reporting hits. For instance, they reported Musashi took something around 13-15 torpedoes, but the survivors of Musashi report less than that.

An educated average between the Yamato survivors and US pilots would indicate that Yamato was hit by between 5-9 Torpedos total, tho upwards of 35-40 were actually released at her.

[Morpheus]

i stopped the yamato with 1 torpedo

and sank her with another 5

aim ftw

[Rifleman75]

I stumbled on a Yamato parked by the Truk harbor, along with some other BB. I was in a S-boat with a full load of Mk10's.
I figured both of the ships would take off soon as I attacked, but they didn't, they just sat there while I reloaded and fired again, and again.
It took the full load of mk10s to down the Yamato. When I was leaving there were 5 destroyers headed to the scene of the crime.

I visited Truk harbor again later and sunk another BB, and then saw another Yamato sitting there, so I hurried back to base to rearm and then back to Truk. It was still sitting there, but after I sank that one, it didn't count it for me

The one time it doesn't count a ship, it's a Yamato!

Running RFB + RSRD

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Rifleman75

I stumbled on a Yamato parked by the Truk harbor, along with some other BB. I was in a S-boat with a full load of Mk10's.
I figured both of the ships would take off soon as I attacked, but they didn't, they just sat there while I reloaded and fired again, and again.
It took the full load of mk10s to down the Yamato. When I was leaving there were 5 destroyers headed to the scene of the crime.

I visited Truk harbor again later and sunk another BB, and then saw another Yamato sitting there, so I hurried back to base to rearm and then back to Truk. It was still sitting there, but after I sank that one, it didn't count it for me

The one time it doesn't count a ship, it's a Yamato!

Running RFB + RSRD

I find it harder to do that in stock...what gives....

[Armistead]

It seems if I hit a Kongo in the first rear turrer closet to the bridge, they will go easily with two. Sunk one with one. I do run mine 5ft under the keel. When torps work late 43, I notice shooting below the keel things blow up much easier.

[Lt Cmdr. Duke E. Gifford]

I haven't had a whole lot of time to get serious, so I'm still fooling with the stock game, and the quick missions, as I often do not have more than 3 hours a week to devote to SH.

But I have been fooling with one of the quick missions that has a Yamato class battleship, along with several Kongo class battleships and various cruisers. I can normally take a Kongo with 3 fish, although a couple of times it has taken four.

Since it takes 60K tons to complete the mission, I thought I'd try to take out the Yamato class battleship, since I've gotten to the point where I can take two Kongos and a Mogami cruiser without even reloading. HAH! Big mistake.

I put six into the starboard side of that Yamato class monster, went under, came up, and put 3 into the port side, and it barely slowed down. By then the destroyers were swarming all over me, and I could never get lined up on her again.

I tried 4 more times. I can finish that mission every time shooting the Kongos, without a scratch. If I try the Yamato, I either end up out of fish from knocking the tin cans over, or I get too busted up by the tin cans while I'm saving fish for the Yamato. Well, once I put the usual 9 fish in the Yamato, sank two tin cans, crippled two tin cans, and by then, the Yamato got far enough away I couldn't catch her, even though I had 6 fish left with her name on every one.

[Loud_Silence]

LOL i just remember when i found TWO (2) yamatos near makassar strait, with rough seas. I put 6 torps on one of them. That didn't sank it, but it was left almost dead in the water with some DDs searching around. I waited my crew to reload the tubes and then put another 6 on her. This time she went right to the bottom

Then i had some fun with one of the searching DDs when i showed him my rear tubes. And finally i emptied my reserves on another BB and the second yamato. The yamato survived the strike, the BB didn't

Man, that was my best patrol ever with difference.

[Armistead]

I think it was April 43, but in 43 Truk is the place to go. I found one TF with 24 ships, sank Yamato and two Carriers. Went to Tulgari to refit, came back to Truk a different TF with another 24 ships, sank the Yamato again, Fuso and a carrier..another refit and yet another different TF with 24 ships...after it was over and two refits sunk 340K tons. Went back a forth time and two BB's I sunk didn't score.
I seldom harbor rape, but wondered after sinking 20 ships, if the game stops scoring. I've hit 20 ships twice and it stopped scoring. However, it may have to do with tonnage.

They need to put some idle dd's around all the stationary harbor ships so something will attack you.

[tater]

At combinedfleet.com, the TROM for Yamato lists 6 certain hits, and say that "several" of the final VTs (6 TBFs) made hits.

That puts the lower limit at 7, the upper limit at 12. That's in addition to a large number of bombs (AP and GP).

Musashi, after 11 torpedo hits (and many bomb hits and near-misses):

The departing American pilots report MUSASHI smoking, heavily down by the bow and dead in the water.

MUSASHI is, in fact, down by the bow, but is making 16 knots on three shafts. After counter-flooding, her starboard list is reduced to 1-2 degrees, but her speed falls off to 13 knots.

Combined fleet then goes on to list the 11 hits of the last attack, including where they hit.

So according to combinedfleet, that's 22 torpedo hits on Musashi.

tater

[JALU3]

Sorry for the thread rez. But anyone here remember how I mentioned I had used almost my full complement of fish on a Yamato and it was sitting there dead in the water? Well I made best possible speed to the nearest port, south of Mindanao, in stock, and made best possible speed back. Nearly 10 days layer, of course she wasn't there. Must have been towed back by a passing convoy or an Ocean Going tug sent out from the Home Islands. To bad to, I would have loved to finish her off. However, on the upside, even though my score won't reflect it, I know. She'll be out of commission in a dry dock some where for a good long time; hopefully long enough, since it's JUN '44 in game, to hopefully miss the action at Leyte Gulf, Sibuyan Sea, and Samar.

Again, don't waste fish on Yamato. It's almost impossible.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by tater

At combinedfleet.com, the TROM for Yamato lists 6 certain hits, and say that "several" of the final VTs (6 TBFs) made hits.

That puts the lower limit at 7, the upper limit at 12. That's in addition to a large number of bombs (AP and GP).

Musashi, after 11 torpedo hits (and many bomb hits and near-misses):


Combined fleet then goes on to list the 11 hits of the last attack, including where they hit.

So according to combinedfleet, that's 22 torpedo hits on Musashi.

tater

But the third Yamato (Shinano) went down with just 4 submarine torpedo hits.