Obama ticks off whiners?

[baggygreen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

America is all for giving anyone a chance. However, there are 'chances' being taken that even the common layman could tell you will not work. These are the chances that 'Bushies' have a problem with. I'm beginning to think critical thinking is becoming the thing of the past.

Whats critical thinking? they didnt teach that at school, they only said americans was bad cos they killed lots of people in the wars

Unfortunately, thats what education here is being reduced to..

[CaptainHaplo]

I am no Bushie - nor am I an Obamaknight.

I tore my hair out when the R's under Bush created a 700 BILLION dollar stimulus package, and called it a horrible move. I was right - it did jack squat. Now we have another one - with another Trillion dollar package already in the works for next year.

All three are terrible decisions - regardless of the letter beside the person's name.

The war in Iraq was not a bad war - it simply was carried out wrong. Now the progress that has been made, is possibly lost due to political promises made - that also is a bad move. However, if a drawdown is done as the leaders on the ground insist is necessary - then progress can be salvaged.

As for Afghanistan - isn't it odd that Obama is reproducing the surge that he claimed had no effect in Iraq, said in his debates that the same strategy would fail in Afghanistan, yet he is now finding it the best course......

Ultimately I have already given the guy a chance - and so far he has failed to live up to what he has promised.

#1 No lobbyists in his administration. He broke that promise before even being sworn in.
#2 Transparency in his and governments actions - yet HIS justice department - withi his ok - is refusing to present documention that has been requested under FoIA.
#3 No cronyism/corruption - instead he would restore dignity and trust to government. - so far he has appointed at least THREE people who couldn't even be straight enough to pay their own taxes - boy thats reassuring....
#4 Every bill he signs will be posted for 5 days for public feedback and review before he signs/vetoes it - uhm... the stimulus/porkulus bill was up for less than 48 hours in its final form before he signed it. Not to mention that when it was in the House/Senate "agreement" committee - the final draft that both sides went to lobbiests before the actual senators and representatives offices got them. How about that cleaned up government thats going to be FOR THE PEOPLE and BY THE PEOPLE.
#5 He got on national TV the other night - prime time - and flat out lied to the American People. He said there were no pork projects, no special interest money in the bill..... How much goes to ACORN again? How much for local projects wanted by this senator or that representative? Those are the definitions of pork projects and special interests.

I didn't give Bush a pass on his mistakes and falsehoods - and I won't give Obama any free passes either.

[JetSnake]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I am no Bushie - nor am I an Obamaknight.

I tore my hair out when the R's under Bush created a 700 BILLION dollar stimulus package, and called it a horrible move. I was right - it did jack squat. Now we have another one - with another Trillion dollar package already in the works for next year.

All three are terrible decisions - regardless of the letter beside the person's name.

The war in Iraq was not a bad war - it simply was carried out wrong. Now the progress that has been made, is possibly lost due to political promises made - that also is a bad move. However, if a drawdown is done as the leaders on the ground insist is necessary - then progress can be salvaged.

As for Afghanistan - isn't it odd that Obama is reproducing the surge that he claimed had no effect in Iraq, said in his debates that the same strategy would fail in Afghanistan, yet he is now finding it the best course......

Ultimately I have already given the guy a chance - and so far he has failed to live up to what he has promised.

#1 No lobbyists in his administration. He broke that promise before even being sworn in.
#2 Transparency in his and governments actions - yet HIS justice department - withi his ok - is refusing to present documention that has been requested under FoIA.
#3 No cronyism/corruption - instead he would restore dignity and trust to government. - so far he has appointed at least THREE people who couldn't even be straight enough to pay their own taxes - boy thats reassuring....
#4 Every bill he signs will be posted for 5 days for public feedback and review before he signs/vetoes it - uhm... the stimulus/porkulus bill was up for less than 48 hours in its final form before he signed it. Not to mention that when it was in the House/Senate "agreement" committee - the final draft that both sides went to lobbiests before the actual senators and representatives offices got them. How about that cleaned up government thats going to be FOR THE PEOPLE and BY THE PEOPLE.
#5 He got on national TV the other night - prime time - and flat out lied to the American People. He said there were no pork projects, no special interest money in the bill..... How much goes to ACORN again? How much for local projects wanted by this senator or that representative? Those are the definitions of pork projects and special interests.

I didn't give Bush a pass on his mistakes and falsehoods - and I won't give Obama any free passes either.

The kenyan has bamboozled 65million Americans to give him a chance to "change" the way things are done. He is now cashing in that political capital given to people who for the most part thought the Republicans were in complete control of all 3 branches of government for the past 8 years.

The funny part is, after 3 weeks in ultimate power, all of the obots I know are hanging their heads in shame, seeing that they have been hoodwinked by the "one". I have never seen a rapid disillusion with a politician yet. Typically it takes a couple of years. But this guy and the stellar administration he has managed to keep together at this point (barring anymore appointees with tax and ethics problems). Is surely setting records.

Of course the government-media complex will not paint it that way. Now if they can only go after the pundits on the radio and internet and their complete control of information will be complete.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by baggygreen

Whats critical thinking? they didnt teach that at school, they only said americans was bad cos they killed lots of people in the wars

Unfortunately, thats what education here is being reduced to..

Exactly baggy...you nailed it on the head. Indoctrination, not critical thinking, is what is happening.

[surf_ten]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Exactly baggy...you nailed it on the head. Indoctrination, not critical thinking, is what is happening.

It's a good thing than Obama is doubling the education department budget to speed up the indoctrination process. Plus our kids need more condoms.

[Enigma]

Education is the silver bullet.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Wait, was Obama just compared to Hitler?