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Old 01-22-09, 11:04 PM   #1
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Well the illusion of snow woulnd't be that hard? Just change the rain sprite to snow, and have ship and submarine models that look like they have snow on them. Or am I still asking for too much?
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Old 01-23-09, 03:04 AM   #2
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from what i have heard, if you did that, it would be snowing everywhere, and all ships would have ice on them.

even if you figured a way to have SH3 commander load the files based on time of year... you would still get snow in the med, or at the equater even when it is intended to be rain.

any modification you make to weather would be global.
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Old 01-23-09, 08:14 AM   #3
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from what i have heard, if you did that, it would be snowing everywhere, and all ships would have ice on them.

even if you figured a way to have SH3 commander load the files based on time of year... you would still get snow in the med, or at the equater even when it is intended to be rain.

any modification you make to weather would be global.
That is true; one would also have snow and ice at the Equator. Perhaps there is a way around this. In American football games, snow will appear in Winter, and only in outside stadiums in the North.
Still, with CMDR one should be able to do this but with limits. JSGME can be used with CMDR, and one would have to enable ice and snow on Winter patrols in the North Atlantic.
A couple of years ago, there was some interest in this and some people did develop ships with ice. One of the problems was that the ice would not melt when submerged, so the reality gurus were upset.
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Old 01-23-09, 12:21 PM   #4
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I could see this working if it was something you enabled yourself with JSGME during winter patrols. If you know you're patrolling the Med or the equator turn it off. As for it not melting, if you're playing at 100% realism its not like you can see your sub underwater anyways.
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Old 01-23-09, 01:42 PM   #6
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I have thought snow would be a great addition.
Have done a little investigation and think it has potentual possibilities, unfortunately it's getting the time to do it.

Snow
Had a glancing look at the rain and IIRC there are parameters that can be altered, size, density etc, which possiibly could be altered to give a snow effect.

SH3Commander
Next you'd have to find in which order SH3Commander processes the folders.
If the above is ideal than you could attach the files to folders to only allow when in certain flotillas at the appropiate area and the correct season and perhaps randomised. There is a problem with long distance patrols going from one zone to another, but this could be solved with save/exit/reload scene change.
Else you could run an external program to do this.

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You could alter efficiencies for loading guns, visibility, equipment breakdown etc.
New File.tga's could be added to give snow covering.
IIRC the subs rotating loop is not visible underwater, so deck snow could possible be added using the same method. But probably I'm wrong.

The above is just a rough sketch of ideas I had, perhaps a pipedream but you never know.
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Old 01-23-09, 02:10 PM   #7
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i think the person to talk to would be privateer. :hmm:

but i think he will agree with what im about to type.

i know it is possible to alter the precipitation in SH3.

the problem is, SH3 wont know whether you are in the arctic ocean in the dead of winter or if you are just off the coast of Florida.

to SH3, rain is rain no matter what size or color or density you give it.

if SH3's weather engine says "make it rain", then SH3 is going to start dropping whatever you have modded it to drop. if snow is the order of the day... then it will snow, relentlessly in some cases for days on end on parts of the earth which do not ordinarily see snow - ever.

any modification you make to the weather will change globally - not locally.

and if you want to have SH3 Commander trigger the modded files, then SH3 commander would have to be changed and updated to perform this task as well.

far be it from me to say that it is impossible... because it is not impossible... far from it.

however, i think it would detract from the realism to be getting snow in the middle of the Med, or off the coast of Florida in December when at best your going to dip down into the 50s or 60s F
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