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[asanovic7]

Yep, that sounds almost mithical.. And thanks.. frame..

One more thing..

I went to the john and done some thinking.. :rotfl:

The problem about balkan will always be that Balkan people/governments think like this:
If a law applies to everyone, it is good for me until it is not against me, then I will do anything, kill, pillage, sell my mother to slavery, whatever..

Most people around the world think similar, that's true.. But for any God/man/nature given law? I think not..

There are two problems with this for me:

That I live in this s..thole and that my country is a little scared rabbit(politicians make profit allowing anything, I think they are actually offering daughters ).
For instance, Croatia always had ship building industry, always were good at it..
My f..ng government worked, is working, what, now for 15 years to wreck it and the last in the long line of idiotisms is this:
You can buy shipyard for one kuna(0.15 euro), you pay off debts(big ones though) and then you can do whatever you like..
Now you tell me, if shipyard is 1/2 of the city port, if it has land of over billion euros worth, is that profittable? What about 50000 people working there?
And I think it is because of european union, because of concurrency, business, whatever.. Maybe I am crazy.. Maybe I am right..

That's only one example of a s..thole.. But it annoys me to see stuff like this..
What is enuf? Where is the line?
People in Cro are starting to feel like this:
You want it, come, take it, what do I care.. Apathy, dismay..

But, I am still annoyed.. Persistant little bugger, little idiot in a true sense of the word..

If Slovenia doesn't want to obey international laws that apply to any godarn country in the world..
If they want something..
Then please, come and take it.. Let there be balkan woodnecks like you always were, are and apparently will be..

Cheers!

[BobbyZero]

OK, asanovic7, STOP this thread right now or I too will, together with Respenus, ask the moderator to close it, and hopefully he will do it.

Subsim.com is not a place for arguing and local nationalistic bickering among Slovenes, Croats and Serbs. I don't think anyone else from other countries is interested in that, and neither am I.

Save that bull**** for other forums.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by BobbyZero

OK, asanovic7, STOP this thread right now or I too will, together with Respenus, ask the moderator to close it, and hopefully he will do it.

Subsim.com is not a place for arguing and local nationalistic bickering among Slovenes, Croats and Serbs. I don't think anyone else from other countries is interested in that, and neither am I.

Save that bull**** for other forums.

[asanovic7]

When a guy from Croatia says such a thing, I see I can only state certain things for the end and stop this.
So, to stop you two guys from running to the admins(without any obvious reasons though) and to stop being called a balkan idiot..
I will stop it. I commented a political issue and recent POLITICAL actions by Slovenia, spiced with some historic facts. But, apparently, it is also nationalistic. :rotfl:
If you read through my posts you will find out that I am not nationalistic. I was and am curious and annoyed with such political moves.
Like many people here comment european union and its actions, I was wondering how do people react on these actions from one of the members, actions which can and should be called fascism, expansionism and threatening behaviour.

But if you have problem between England and France, then it is ok to comment it, if you comment problems like this one, you are warmonger and nationalistic idiot.
:rotfl:

Cheers!

[AntEater]

Not with me, I just don't know what this slovene-croatian argument is about.
And I'm pretty fluent with the history of these parts due to part Austria-Hungary family backround and years of vacationing in Istria and Makarska.
So I suppose except for Slovenes and Croats, nobody knows what you're talking about.
If you would elaborate what this argument is about (territory obviously), then the rest could comment.

[asanovic7]

This is my last reply on the theme.
I will try to explain, maybe I 'll miss some things, but God, I opened this thread for such a discussion!

We have international borders recognized 1991. for Slovenia and Croatia by UN(or whatever). Borders that were "assembled" by Yugoslavia after second world war.

The thing is, Slovenia is not satisfied with such borders and constantly uses men and everything at disposal to provocate. Like when their politicians crossed the border illegally to show I do not know what. They got arrested. :rotfl:

2002. or so our former idiot prime minister gave out certain parts of the shore under pressure to Slovenia, but that arrangement was not legal. In translation idiot realized, fortunately very fast, what he did. To give away parts of your own country without any knowledge of others, is ofcourse treason. Although that arrangement is not legal slovenians talk about that like hell.
Well, Slovenians need those certain parts so they can exploit sea resources(oil) in northern Jadran or mediterranean and that they can have a free access to international waters.
Actions like not wanting to make a road from Hungary to Rijeka to stop RIjeka and certain parts of Croatia from developing show the extent of such provocations.
Croatia last year declared economic sea belt(I don't know how to call it :rotfl to stop Italian and Slovenian fishermen and others from exploiting our sea, but under great pressure that belt was cancelled. It is fof no matter most european countires have such a thing, ofcourse.
Slovenians now want to use European union as a weapon in claiming those parts of Croatia, and they state those two things I mentioned above as a proof "Croats are cattle"(this is what one of their members of governemnt spoke of Croatia, just recently).
Our governement(even as dumb as it is) wants that issue to be solved either amongst ourselves or in front of a international court in Hague.
But Slovenians don't want that and do this, and I call it fascism.

They have a fascist government and it should be said freely. It is fascism. They act and speak like fascists.

It is not I hate Slovenians, it is not nationalistic. I don't like their governement. Why do our two countries have to fight? And how can a such a little country use so many countries as a weapon?
Why is there such a thing as kozler map, eh, respenus?

It is the same with Serbia. Their government is a mix fascist disaster also.
Serbs are nice people, funny, but certain(and a good one) percentage of them and their government is "not nice".
How can't they not understand, if we fight with neighbours and we want that "cow dies to neighbour" ( a saying), how can we all prosper?

I am curious what do the people from european union that are used as a "weapon" think about that? Do they think this is good for Slovenia?


But to understand true cause in those "volatile balkan relations" you would have to be born here. You would have to know history, you would have to understand why a guy from Croatia threatens to another guy from Croatia. It is not people fight for nothing or out of nothing, but it and may appear so. It has firm historical reaons, some are way old. Some are not.
You would have to know that true slovenians are not interested in such things as their governement, many of them work in Croatia as well as Croats in Slovenia, and that a fascist movement in that country has certain roots in some other countries. Historical roots, BUT to say or speak about that would be "nationalism".

Sorry on my bad english, I tried to explain as hard as I can.

Cheers